Kamen Rider Build Episode 13- "Who Takes Off The Veil?!" Discussion
 

After learning the truth from Nabeshima, Sento sets out to confront Faust- but there are still other secrets yet revealed...

Blood Stalk reveal this episode? I'm pretty sure now that it's Soichi.

Yeah, preview has Sento go "This is the worst..." Also Heisei Generations Final leaked and apparently implies Stalk's identity is already known

Stream isn't working!!!!

I knew it! I fucking knew it!

Just like rogue, stalk's voice and mannerism are like their human counterpart/persona. It's a nice touch that they show both of them using "bat" and "snake" like powers instead of the regular punching and shooting. I felt like stalk might be gone soon or for a while and sawa will replace him in the openings. The toy scans only shows rogue getting a power up.

nah Stalk had a VA that wasn't the same as Shouihi's aclor

I like to tell the guy who gives the raw links special thanks for doing this instead of potentially getting spoiled through waiting.

Bless you

Genmcorp subs are already out. Overtime would probably be out tomorrow.

And yes, Stalk is ___________. :D :D :D

Although his motivation is still unexplained. The previews for next week really hammer the nail home.

I don't know how Misora will react seeing her father as Stalk. I don't wanna see Sento & her not talk to each other again.

Misora 100% knows.

That's why she has that worried/depressed attitude throughout the episode. Even trying to say at some point : Hey, getting Stalk won't solve anything, the enemy is Namba ^^".

and at the very end when she says, "welcome home" it looks like she's been crying. I think she knows too.

was nice to see some Rabbit Tank and Gatling Hawk again this episode.

So what do you think will happen after Stark's identity is revealed?

When the series go to Hokuto, will the coffee shop be closed? And they'll have to "build" a new lab there?

That was my impression too. She was trying to divert Sento from Stalk throughout the episode. It would be interesting to see Ryuuga's expression when he finds out but it would be most likely "EEEHHHHHH, the owner was Stalk all the time?" :D

Probably. And it'll probably look exactly the same as the previous lab so they can reuse the set rather than having to build a new set.

Seen the subs and having understood everything that was going on I love the buildup to the eventual reveal over Stalk's identity and I think this might be one of the best episodes yet. You can really see the characters starting to progress a bit more especially Sento, who must have been going through a lot in this episode, having to come to terms with the first person he remembers ever seeing and who he has seen as a father figure throughout the series turning out to be his main enemy and that the whole reason he became Build in the first place was all part of Faust's plan.

On a side note I loved the scene when they both transform and then rush out into the alleyway with the camera panning down it, when Sento stands out in front and then Banjo just stands in front of him before being pushed out of the way. I thought that was pretty funny.

TOLD YOU SO!
Now for the big reveal that Misora is actually Princess Kaguya, but instead of moon she is from Mars.

i though they where going to go with someone else as stark, he was involved but the entire point is obvious in this episode -plus the moment this one starts stating he is always at his part time job it was obvious from the start of the episode.

The thing is this does fill in a fair number of pieces

so the real question is why is he doing all this

Noticed something in this episode that I failed to notice before. In the flashbacks when the Owner finds Sento he's wearing black pants and white shirt. But when we flashed back to when he was dropped off to see Katsuragi, he was wearing something completely different. And when we had the flashbacks for Ryuuga, the body on the floor was wearing black pants and while shirt. Something's are and aren't adding up.

Notice how before the opening begins, the camera focuses on Sento going to his work bench? It seems like a little pointless piece of cinematography. Why leave the camera running?

So that is the drawback of the TranSteam System? Such a shame that Gentoku isn't as experienced or has as many tricks as Stalk. And talking about Stalk, I just love the fact that he can just stroll in and out of the scene and completely own it. This is a villain who has always been in control of the situation.

That flashback scene was kind of weak, in my opinion. And I know that Sento is fighting for the first time but even that fight seemed weak. It was as if Seiji Taikawa was pretending to be fighting for the first time instead of actually acting as if he was fighting for the first time. But Owner's words about this place being familial kinda rung true.

I just love the fact that Banjou Ryuuga gets to dress up at every occasion. I have lost count of the number of times he has actually done it but I just love it. Even his actor seems to put that thing into life. And this is the first time they have transformed side-by-side only for Ryuuga to get dope-slapped by Sento. Excellent.

That scene where Ryuuga clings to the wall while Sento shot the PirateTrain was nice but it was followed by them trying to open the door was hilarious.

OctopusLight has a nice color scheme but a horrible design. But at least it looks better than Ghost Himeko. And that finisher was kinda lame.

Sadly, there were no motorcycle shenanigans in this episode.

Who is Isurugi Souichi? Maybe he is Katsuragi Takumi hiding in the body of Isurugi Souichi?

At least I kinda understand why it's a best match.
Both halves are made to blind/restrain the opponent.

I fear Stalk will be getting a death flag.

I would really hate it if he actually had some good intention for doing all this then get killed off by Night Rogue.

Plus some octopi can actually emit light, the Light part of the Best Match is supposed to be a lightbulb and not light itself

I love how the entire internet had figured out Blood Stalk's identity before this episode aired! It was a good episode though, and I am REALLY looking forward to seeing Blood Stalk go more into his motivations next episode.

I love the humor whenever Build and Cross-Z fight together, Build struggling to use a touch pad with his thick gloves was hilarious as Cross-Z yells at him to use his pinky was too much.

I think that and the shot of Sento locking the fridge behind him, is supposed to be imply it is the start of him working on the RabbitTank Sparkling upgrade.

Working on one last ace in the hole without any prying eyes incase Isurugi really was Stalk.

Alright, we got the opening back, but still no Rabbit Tank. I guess I'll take what I can get.

Amazing episode, of course. I forget if all the clever people calling Stalk's identity were pointing this out already, but I just skimmed back over episode 4 and not only is Souichi conveniently the one who found Sento after Blood Stalk beat up him at the end of the episode prior, he's also been doing the "walk in the door holding a motorcycle helmet like he's been doing something normal" bit the whole time too! Crazy stuff. It's great how tightly written this show is.

Well that answers that. I hope Stalk will be an ally in the future. Sento and Ryuga have the best primary-secondary rider chemistry.

Thus the internet theory that Sento is face-changed Katsuragi exposed to Nebula Gas twice, creating Rabbit and Tank smashes, thus lost his memory but able to use Build

He can't have created Rabbit and Tank - Katsuragi has them in his Build Intro Video, which was obviously filmed before he became Sento.

Just had a blast of random thoughts about various small details in the episode that I noticed:

-In the flashback to when Sento had his first fight as Build, the driver doesn't say anything when Sento inserts the rabbit and tank bottles, or when he transforms into RabbitTank. Which is a reference to episode 3 when Sento mentions that the driver originally didn't identify Best Matches until he decided to install that feature into it because it would more convenient than to keep using the panel on the lab wall.

-Stalk having more experience than Rouge in their fight could just be a backstory thing, but in my opinion, is a small nod to the fact that Stalk gets into fights against Sento and Banjo more often as a more active villain than Rouge.

-The 3d model they use for Stalk's cgi pet cobra in this episode is just Venosnaker from KR Ryuki.

-In episode 4 where Fish mentions that Soichi conveniently found Sento at the docks after Stalk poison's him, this episode is a also the start of Soichi leaving for work all the time. Not only that but in several of those moments when Soichi leaves or walks in with his motorcycle helmet, including in the beginning of this episode, said motorcycle helmet is (blood) red!

Good lord, that is on par with the prop team of KR Ex-Aid having Dan's actor sit in his office with the letters G E N M in bright yellow on his desk, like how did everyone not just burst out laughing whenever they have to do a scene with the characters wondering "who is the Dark Ex-Aid?" on that set.

Good episode, although nothing in it surprised me really.

One thing I will criticise is that Sentou is wrong when he only lists OctopusLight as a reason for when Blood Stalk was surprised by a Best Match. I'm pretty sure with him having the Rocket-one prior he didn't know about RocketPanda either.

Which in hindsight makes sense since he kicked Stalk's butt with it, but he didn't mention doing so.

That's it for me really, the episode was great, everything fell into place like I was expecting it to and I had fun watching it. The chemistry between Build and Cross-Z in this one was fantastic too.

Random thought: The Cross-Z suit is gorgeous (like, just watch the scene where he prepares his finisher and how the light runs over the suit, so good) and I will be pissed when they forcefully retire it for the stupid Jelly-one.

That MIGHT be a slight mistranslation, Stalk goes "Octopus?" meaning he didn't know that such a Fullbottle exists, as Sento purified it against Misora's wishes. Speaking of Misora, she REALLY fucked me up. She knew. She knew this whole time. I hope they don't axe Stalk/Shouchi off because there's multiple questions. What's his goal? We know it involves getting the box and panel, but it also involves making the Riders stronger, and last episode he yelled "Faust doesn't belong to you!" at Rogue. That, the fact he's using Blood Stalk's tech as it was intended (a rival to help Build grow stronger), the fact he showed he can change people's faces and how he's been helping Sento implies he has ties to Katsuragi

I don't know what you're talking about but I meant the combat aspect. Sentou arranging the battle to test OctopusLight against Blood Stalk definitely isn't a mistranslation.

And he uses that (Blood Stalk being unable to predict OctopusLight's combat abilities) as an argument yet the writers failed to mention that RocketPanda working as well as it did could've been a clue too since Blood Stalk couldn't know how that Best Match would work out either.

It's just a slight oversight that I found worth mentioning since it would've been an easy and smart thing to do.

Please forgive me I wasn't awake for very long after posting that, meant mistake

Don't worry about it, I probably should've worded my post better anyways.

It's more about the unknown power attached to the Best Match than just the form being a Best Match by itself.

Here's what I don't understand, a few episodes ago Isurugi took a tablet and literally twisted it into a back scratcher. No bottle. But he's Stalk? I'm confused as to the extent of his powers both in and out of suit.

Also, there's no actual proof that Misora wasn't just as clueless as Sento. Of course I could just be trying to protect my idea of Misora.

I'm also really mystified by why Faust even exists as an organization. I mean, you took the Pandora Box in order to keep it from the government, but you're working for the government?

A theory's going around the real Shouchi died and that this is an imposter from Mars, but eh

As someone who bombed through the last 7 episodes just today, I think I get it. Faust is run by members of the government, but is seperate from them, and also evil. Basically, anything they do is unconnected (officially) to the government, by virtue of them being evil science inc. They stole the box to push Seito and Hokuto into a panic, which would force the actual government to stop being so pacifistic, meaning they'd be looking to buy weapons from Namba, which co-runs Faust.

I now understand why Obi-Wan wasn't brave enough for politics.

That would make about as much sense as anything.

Heh, no joke. I suppose if you were trying to instigate the other powers into giving up their hands so you could run in under the guise of being the pacifist, it would be a good cover for dominance.

I also have to wonder if there's a formula for this plot that was worked out like (sqrt N/F cos SH)Build*CrossZ. The writing seems just geeky enough for that to be a thing.

something ive noticed is that trust is something that is unwise here. Each person that build has trusted except ryuga and girl betray him at some point

also the question ive got is what will happen to their base can they keep using it as its know to the other side