Kamen Rider Zi-O Episode 21- "Mirror World 2019!" Discussion
 

Faced with Another Rider who can repel all attacks, Sougo and Geiz stop to research this new opponent at the ORE Journal newspaper...

Ryuki's my second favorite series, so I was happy that I had time to watch the live stream of the episode. It was really good. Lots of callbacks to Ryuki, the same effects for the Mirror World looked and sounded exactly like I remember. Without being able to understand the dialogue, I'm not sure how much it explains why the Mirror World exists after the Ryuki ending. There is a flashback to Episode Final, which is interesting. Wonder if they're going with the idea that Episode Final takes place after the end of the show, even if the end of the show was supposed to be the final time loop

Zi-O 21 RAW:

http://www.miomio.tv/watch/cc419627/

It was so good to see Ryuki again wow. I miss Shinji, I was happy to watch my favorite rider come back. Another Ryuga is strong love the way he threw woz all over the place. This ep is canon to the Episode Final. There was a flashback to it and that confirm it. Next week were see Zi-O 2 and more Ryuki.

I've had a thought buzzing in my head. Oma Day may be April 30th or May 1st.

Fun fact, Shinji's apartment number 401 is the same number as "THE LAB" in Ryuki. The same lab where Eri was put in a coma and the same lab where Kagawa, Tojo, and Nakamura were using as a base of operations.

Some people have been speculating that. I think it'd be a nice reference to the end of the Heisei era.

That falls on the premiere of the 33rd episode (even though April 30th and May 1st are later in the week).

Maybe Oma Day is Zi-O's endgame where it coincides with the last day of Heisei, since it's leading to end of the Heisei Era with Zi-O being the last one.

Rider plots don't normally follow real time dates, like how Ghost's new 60 days were in universe days and not real life days.

Finally an episode that really kept me watching with out looking away very few minutes. I loved the dragon noise from Ryuki when ever Ryuuga-another attacked with that arm.

Ryuki was the very first Kamen Rider thing I had ever been exposed to, or should I say Masked Rider Ryuki? Either way, the little callbacks and nods made me pretty happy. As for the episode itself, the story is looking pretty straightforward as the only question remaining is just how will Sougo activate his new power. Looking forward to that.

Shinji didn't get to do much of anything, and I am fairly certain that will be the same for next week too, but somehow I didn't feel too bad about that. Maybe it's because I was expecting it going into the episode. I mean, the fact that he and his mirror self showed up at all is pretty cool, but I'm not holding my breath for him to be as involved as Takeru was back in Ghost's episodes.

Also I kinda love Mirror Zi-O but maybe not for the right reasons! He's so... goofy in how evil he is, and that his design is as literally a mirrored version of the hero as it gets is both really simple but really effective when you have a big pink word written on your face.

Loved this episode. I loved all the callbacks to Ryuki and that they even got to use the old Ore journal building.

Another Ryuga looks really awesome. Might be the best Another Rider design they have made.

And of course I loved seeing Shinji and the Editor again. Hopefully they get to do more next episode.

Hey everyone, guess what time it is!

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I really loved this episode. The emphasis on everyone all having their own different agendas was great, and despite not having the best characters ever, this show has some very sharply written interactions between them. Special props to Sougo walking away from a conversation with Woz because he already put two and two together.

I was tempted to say Shinji is horribly underutilized, but thinking about it, the treatment he got here is probably more true to his character than anything else would've been. He was the original everyman Rider, after all. They also balance it out by giving the Ryuki episodes the honor of being where one of Zi-O's big powerups debuts, so it works out.

Combine all that with creative use of the Mirror World setup and you get an episode that really plays to the series' strengths. Definitely a major step up from the episodes with Quiz.

Pretty enjoyable episode overall, though hard to judge the full thing since they are doing the double episode stories so that will be for next week.

Seeing Ryuki again was fun, and it was an interesting idea to go for the Ryuga route for it, fitting for a season with time travel that we get alternate timeline ending character.

For some reason, the subs I watched had Black Woz saying "Waga Maou" instead of "My overlord/Demon King" (I have no issues there) and White Woz saying "Waga Kyurangers" instead of "My Saviour" (or "Waga Kyuseishu"). Uh, what? XD

What? Geiz is a Kyuranger? HE MUST DIE!

I saw the same. I think someone was a little :lolol when writing out those subs.

I'm so super confused by White Woz' motivations. Because in spite of his words, it sure aint to make Geiz a savior.

Also, I utterly love the fact that they used Kuuga's director to make the episode feel exactly the same as the series.

I've also stopped trying to make any sense of the series as a whole in relation to where we were back in episode 10 or earlier because time keeps changing courtesy of everyone mucking about. I do however like that the characters for Sougo and Geiz are evolving more past where we started. And it doesn't feel nearly as janky as Decade was, but that's personal perception. Granted, it's really bad in terms of trying to fit prior Rider series in, but at least it's entertaining.

White Woz claim about it being a future where time has stopped as it currently is, worries me.

It is pretty damn clear that the revive timeline he is from does not have any positive effect on the actual world itself, having so little respect for his so called savior as well pretty much says it all while black woz has far more respect for Sougo even if he has not become his overlord yet.

I do not think white or black will die either per say, I think this will end with the two timelines being fused into one towards the true final villain (( likely the shadow that convinced Sougo to become a king by constantly showing up in his dreams )).

So we will gete a "gray" woz that will be a true ally I think.

Was really busy last week with midterms, didn't really have time to watch the episode till today. It was fantastic. Loved seeing the Ore Journal editor in chief and Shinji again, even if it was brief. Was also very happy to see that they didn't try to justify Ryuga as somehow being part of the normal history, instead specifically making it a plot point that he was from a alternate and no longer existant timeline. Was hoping they'd give an explanation of how Shinji's seemingly kept his powers to appear in the big crossover movies, but there's still a chance of that in 22 or the web movie

I LOVE the joke on Quiz's powers during this episode. That was really good comedy and makes up for the silly gimmick.

As for the episode itself, I wish we could have seen more of Daisuke or Shinji but man if this episode didn't nail the Ryuki atmosphere! This was so nostalgic from a visual and auditory perspective. I always love hearing the classic Mirror world sound and they went back to so many original locations from the Ryuki show, including the Ore Journal Building! What was cool is that the shutdown of the Ore Journal site seems to be meta, coinciding with the actual promotional site getting taken off of the web around a year ago.

It's really interesting that they use Ryuga as the Another Rider and they utilize him well. The idea that Episode Final may be the canonical ending to Ryuki according to this is even more intriguing. Great seeing the clips from the film as well. God I just love everything Ryuki so this was an excellent episode for me.

Neh, they state in the episode that Ryuga was from a timeline that no longer exists, like most of the earlier heisei rider movies that came out towards the end they are alternate endings, overall though Rider is set in a multiverse so they are still canon in their own timelines, they specifically said tha Ryuga came from one that no longer exists though.