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In your personal opinion, what is the worst Super Sentai season?
For me, Ninninger no question about it!
I already talked about why I despise this show but I will point out about the head producer’s comment on the show Producer Naomi Takebe presented the series as not unlike a Hollywood movie with an "unthinkable ninja" concept. "We wanted to create a concept of out-there ninjas with a festival robot, dragons, fun sounds and anything fun, anything". Wow! That sound like awesome show on paper but the actual show....... it’s basically Takaharu’s variety hour show. A total lie from the producer who is same head producer of Kamen Rider Gaim! Out of Sentai shows that I watched, Ninninger is definitely the worst Sentai show that I ever watch! No wonder why I more into Kamen Rider stuff more than Super Sentai! |
Of the ones I've seen, Ninninger is certainly my least favourite. But I'm still able to find a lot of things I like about it -- Starninger was wonderful; Kyuemon was a fantastic villain; and i really liked the overall themes they were going for even if I don't feel it was executed well. Though the previous Sentai and Jiraiya cameos were used for fantastic effect; perhaps more than most returning characters in other shows.
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The mechas are the worse.
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But now, the mecha fights starting to become repetitive and kill any love I have for mecha fights (at least Super Sentai one) Mecha fights from any anime shows are more entertaining than Super Sentai’s mecha fights. (Come at me!) |
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Kyuranger.
Good lord, talk about annoying. |
Lupinranger vs patranger was such a boring sentai.
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80s: Goggle-V
90s: Carranger 00s: Go-onger 010s: Ninninger I'm sticking with the shows that I've seen |
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As for me, I'd say the worst is Jetman, I dropped it like 10 episodes early than I dropped Ninninger too, 2 of the rangers were completely irrelevant while the other 3 was all tied up in a love triangle, that CAN work but I simply didn't find Kaori or Gai likeable at all, they're both assholes early in the show and while they do develop, seeing Kaori have multiple episodes dedicated to "waaaaah I got upset and I don't want to do this anymore" wasn't fun, but what really gets me is how they handle the love triangle. Kaori loves Red, Gai loves Kaori and Red just wants to be left out. Gai's a dick to Red out of jealousy, which isn't bad, but I drawed the line at Kaori being told by Red that he's still not over his fiance's death to which she goes "In that case I'll try to win you harder!" What a fucking bitch, knowing that they marry at the end makes this even worse, and shortly afterwards, Gai fuckingforces himself on Kaori. I get that it was a very different time when Jetman aired but I just cannot find any sympathy for "the girl I forced myself on doesn't like me back" at all |
Ninninger. Merch under-performed, a waste of great art direction(the one thing I will defend about the show), and I lost interest in the narrative along the way sadly.
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LuPat. It's a close call between Ninninger and that, but at least Ninninger had some individual episodes where I could kinda enjoy myself, (plus Starninja is wasted in the show), while LuPat just grated. Out of 7 rangers, I like 2. The Lupins constantly coming out on top when Kairi is a jerk and Touma is a brick smarts, and I could do without Green's weird niceguy vibes towards Umika. And Noel is the worst sixth/seventh/lets-just-say-fourth-since-he-favours-the-Lupins-just-like-the-merch-did ranger I've ever seen. Add to that plot hooks that meander for months at a time, or just go nowhere, bad mech designs, boring villains yet again (except, ironically, for the Big Boss himself; Dogranio as a retiring mobster who just wants to find a replacement is a neat idea), and the ending of the show...
I didn't like it much. |
Much as I despise Kyoryuger, it is far from the worst so I cannot say it is.
If I wanna go for something other than Ninninger.... Well prepare for the most controversial opinion: Zyuohger. My primary distaste comes from the designs. None of it is attractive. The show is extremely Red-focused which is saved only because Yamato is one ofnthe best reds, but still, the other Zyuohgers are one of the worst 'cheerleader'-type of Rangers when it comes to Red-centric Rangers. It doesn't help that the plot goes nowehere most ofnthe time, this is also found on LuPat, since they share the same writer. And Mondo. My god he is imo the worst 6th Ranger of all time. I get what they're trying to do with him: a socially awkward person who just wants to make friends but also has a very low self-esteem. On paper that is a brilliant idea, because he can be extremely relatable, but nope. They turned him into a joke. Into an annoying joke. It doesn't help that his actor doesn't really know how to portray him well, making Zyuoh the World, despite on paper looks like a one hell of a cool 6th Ranger, ends up being the weakest. Hell even his weapon is just lame looking. Idk maybe one day I will rewatch it, because I love the Deathgalien designs, but I really dislike Zyuohger. |
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As someone who has no real interest in SUper Sentai, what I'm gathering from this thread is that the recent seasons have been rather weak though I can't help but wonder if that's because they just might be the most recent entries compared to others so they just stick out more
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I personally can't stand Carranger because I find the humor to be obnoxious to sit through. I know the show is for kids, but the humor does get old very quick. Go-longer was also similar to how annoying the show can be at times.
I haven't seen Turboranger, so I hope that car theme show will be good. RPM is a rare example of a PR show being better than the original source material in my opinion. However, that's not a very high bar though in my opinion. |
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Nearly every post in this thread is like a needle in my heart.
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I mean, I only have opinions on stuff from Shinken - LuPat, and other people might be similar, so it's less "maybe old seasons were better" and more "less people have seen old seasons".
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Noel. |
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Pretty much they let the head writer of Carranger to do whatever the hell he want with Carranger. Any tragic events like 1995 Terrorist Attack and especially 2011 Tokyo Earthquake leads to more lighthearted shows like Carranger and Fourze. (I have a feeling that next rider show after Zero-One is going to be more lighthearted due to Coronavirus Pandemic) |
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I feel like I would be betraying my brand if I said anything other than Goseiger.
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From what I have heard; Kyoruger is the worst season of all. I have not seen it; I do not plan on seeing it and I hope that sentai either stops focusing on the red ranger or gets discontinued before it becomes a sad joke of a formerly great show
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Of the ones I've watched LuPat just because it has a lot stuff that annoys the crap out of me such as Noel, mech designs, toy-line distribution, and the disappointment know as Zamigo Delma .
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So. Okay, this has bewildered me from the moment I first saw it.
I understand not liking Noel. I'm not the biggest fan myself; he's kind of middling for me and I can certainly see why he'd slip into 'dislike' territory for a lot of fans, especially with Lupat's flaws in general. But I've never been sure on why exactly a lot of people actually think of him as one of if not THE worst Sentai character ever? I really want to make clear that this isn't something I'm upset over; or think you guys are wrong on; or that you shouldn't have that opinion or that it's a judgement or anything like that. Nor is it something I'm owed an explanation on of course, but I'm just so confused that at this point I'm dying to know why a character that I was sort of meh on inspires such hatred |
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I suppose it's that he represents everything I dislike about LuPat as a show, wrapped up in a smug, obnoxious overcoat. He blatantly prefers the Lupins, what with his entire backstory being tied up in theirs, and yet acts surprised when the Pats do anything to indicate they don't trust him, despite the fact he spends all his time obviously palling with the enemy. He never tells them anything that might help their mission - even the ending has him going back to recruiting an entire team to break into a secure facility and free the Lupins, without tellign the Pats (who, I remind you, considered the Lupins as their friends by this point!) anything! Which is especially obnoxious given the Pats gave him the big friendship speech at the end of their arc. His backstory is also pretty bad. Nothing happens to him for 30 episodes, until its revealed he's an alien. Which then goes nowhere. Raised by Lupin himself, supposedly, which again ties into nothing. Stealing an upgrade off Keiichirou (one that has the Patranger logo on it) and using it in his Lupin mode is just he icing on the cake, really. Basically, if it was just his personality alone, yeah, he'd be irritating at best. But because the show's plot puts him in such a place that it emphasises all the flaws by him being there, watching him reminds me of why I had such a bad time watching the show. Also, on a more positive note because writing that much mean stuff klls me, Kyoryuger is great and people calling it the "worst thing ever" can bite me. Great mech, great characters (I can give you a personality trait for all 10 Kyoryugers, which is more than I can do for the Ninningers), the best Sentai villains for basically the whole decade, and I legit don't understand where the backlash came from. |
Hey, everyone, watch me prove how much fun subjectivity is!
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His constant toying with the Patrangers got aggravating after a certain point, especially him holding the "I'm not part of your division, so I don't have to tell you anything" card every time he gets any bit of useful information that might have the slightest chance of revealing anything about the Lupins. His connection with the Lupins making it obvious where the show was heading, and that they clearly wanted to make "Lupinranger" but at that point, they had already aired 15 episodes of LuPat, so they couldn't just remove the Patrangers. Him stringing along the Patrangers to achieve his own goals is just unethical for a so called officer. When the Pats have to actively hide missions from him to keep the Lupins from winning (And they ALWAYS wing), you know he's not really a member of the team. His obnoxious attitude. His constant smirking and mightier than thou attitude is bad, but him basically fucking over the Pat's jobs time and time again, then just buying some macaroons and going "Lol sorry" at the end of numerous episodes is aggravating. How he's treated. He lied to both teams (The Lupins to a lesser extent, but still), he constantly undermined the Pat's efforts, and used his authority to keep multiple vital secrets from the Pats. And how does everyone respond? With open arms and declarations that they still love and respect him. Despite this, he still continues to lie and screw with the Patrangers until the very end. Wrap all of that up, then add in the fact that he got the Super Patranger upgrade and a host of spotlight episodes, and he embodies everything that's wrong with LuPat. That they let marketing decide where the show went, rather than the writers. Sentai as a franchise is just a set of yearly toy adverts, I'm not dumb. But some shows manage to be pretty good. LuPat, though, was a show with potential that got destroyed by a team in suits going "Well, the charts say..." at every turn. |
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They just focus more on toy advertisements and just be lazy with the storytelling and it just become repetitive especially those mecha fights. When I was a little kid, I always look forward of watching mecha fights but as I got older, it doesn't excite me anymore and I just having a hard time of watching recent Super Sentai shows. This is one of reason why I more into Kamen Rider than Super Sentai. |
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In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have posted that with so little context. It's just that a thread like this always reminds me how fascinating it is how people can see the same things in such wildly different ways. Although I'd be legitimately shocked to see someone say Kyuranger had the best villains of the decade. :lol |
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What little I saw (roughly 3-7 episodes of each) was enough to make me, at least, want to re-torrent them. And I plan to. EDIT: And I don't think I've had a sentai I've hated. I've had some I can barely get into or got tired of, like Carranger and LuPat, but I don't specifically hate any show. |
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