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What rider seasons would you pick if KR gets picked up by Hasbro?
Hasbro has taken Power Rangers. I just wonder if they'll adapt Kamen Rider? They make original footage in it.
But anyway, if there would be KR adapted in US/Canada, what would be a good number of seasons you'd choose to pick? Anything to make the series feel a bit like the Arrowverse. Choose the best rider season to be the first, the others as later. I could go for Build... maybe a later for Zero-One. The others I could choose Ex-Aid, Drive & Gaim. Zi-O & Decade are a problem. |
Zero-One. Start with the latest and just go from there.
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EX-Aid since Xbox is more popular in USA than Japan and there's the possibility of a PR crossover if Kyuranger ever gets adapted.
Zi-O since the kana visors are similar to the kanji visors of Power Rangers Samurai and you could make a story similar to Shattered Grid. Shinobi since ninjas are always the correct answer. |
Agito so I can get Agito figures
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None. I'm not a big fan of Hasbro and they already have license agreements or outright own too many properties (that I actually like) for my taste. Any Rider figures that resulted would be out of scale with what is already on the market, and likely utilize gummy/rubber joints which I really dislike.
I realize this is a very "grumpy nerd" post, but I just don't really want to see Rider adapted for a Western audience again. I'd rather see it imported. |
I mean, the short answer is "whichever show has the most dinosaur-themed costumes", right?
My pick, for similar Shit Kids Love reasons, would be Drive. I think a car aesthetic makes for pretty appealing toys, the main dude's red, and the secondary Rider is basically Speed Racer. Add in a Driver that speaks English, and you've got a decent framework for an Americanized Kamen Rider show. |
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I'mma say Build because it has the most core themes of what kamen rider is... albeit hasbro doesnt have to keep the themes of anti-facism, working together to fight evil, etc
Also if we're allowed pre-decade hesei blade, kabuto, faiz or den-o. |
Ghost - and its an educational show about historic figures.
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Ghost(TBF one they would HAVE To change Specter's debut episode's motw plan tbf Saban did that all the time) would like too see how they handle a darker season before Gaim/Ex-Aid/Build
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Maybe something from the 2010s would be best seeing as the 2000s are starting to seem properly old now. Not sure whether I'd want one I like or try and make something bad into something really good, plus shows like Zi-O technically could work as a way of introducing the unseen riders.
If it's going to be an adaptation, why does it always have to be US though? Maybe a shorter British adaptation on ITV or something could work and might be more suited to the darker and more realistic themes! |
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Honestly, I think people just want official subs. At most, a completely unique "western" Rider using Toei themes and concepts with western budgets. (I say western just to mean, English speaking characters for the world at large).
Its too much work and too risky to try an adaptation. Especially in a world that is so connected. An adaptation is just a google search away from feeling like an after-thought. |
Zero-One, bar none. Kabuto is too old to use the Toei footage and what better way than to adapt a show that keeps the iconography of a classic Kamen Rider show but is also updated for the times. Runner-up would be Double.
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I would still go for Build somehow. Make the Smash metahumans in some way for Build to extrace random essences from those who possess mutant powers.
If you could replace the "Fang Smash' with a regular human being (actors/actresses with martial arts ability) possessing mutant powers, Build will be able to fight them and extract their essence leaving him/her powerless. Make Build World War III - Pandora War! |
Decade or Zi-O
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Zero-One or Double, but I'm leaning towards Double since the what makes Kamen Rider different from Sentai/PR is the 'lone hero' aspect.
But if Zero-One is chosen, I want them to have each Riders, ir at the very least Vulcan and Jin, to have bikes of their own. Since it would be pretty weird for first time audiences to see a Rider but they don't ride a bike. Also I'm surprised OmegaEclipse didn't get triggered at this thread yet. |
This is gonna be a long and controversial answer, but here goes:
- The first Rider to get the adaptation release was Black RX. It was in Mighty Morphin' Season 3, "A Friend in Need". That's where it should start for that "Masked Rider". As far as I and most others are concerned, the series should be its own (largely left in the '90s) thing and basically considered an alternate timeline story. If Masked Rider returns it should be based-off of the three-parter. - The question with using Black RX is whether or not to include Black as well, and I am of the camp that supports that decision. It would also not be difficult to canonize Robo Rider and Bio Rider, either. - As far as the Movie Riders of the '90s, ZO and J are fine. Leave Shin alone! - Kuuga and Agito should be left as is for now. - Ryuki became "Dragon Knight" and I am also of the camp that believes Hasbro should purchase the rights to that series and re-release it also. - Blade, Faiz, Kabuto are also viable options. If done, much of the mythology would be completely upended! If used in any capacity, the higher-quality movies of each would probably be options if any footage were to be used. - Double, Fourze, Wizard, and Ex-Aid should all be considered for footage possibility! The Team-Ups with Sentai, while ultimately controversial from a Toei Tokusatsu standpoint, should be considered as well as the best answer is to always tie the Riders in with the Rangers! Granted, if many of the Riders are excised, then this would necessitate new footage filming, but I don't see Hasbro as being totally unresponsive to that (assuming that whole "The End of the Power Rangers?" thread is proven to be false/misunderstood). - The use of previously adapted Metal Heroes being used to supplement any adapted Riders is also worth considering as well. Beetleborgs and VR Troopers were part of the deal that Hasbro bought from Saban. In addition, Jiraiya was adapted in Super Ninja Steel as "Sheriff Skyfire" and that character is ripe for more material! I won't reference the international spoilers of Beast Morphers Season 2's second half here in any great detail, but.... - The idea of adapting Showa Riders is controversial in its own right, but it would be easy cause they tend to have fewer forms. Have too many forms and accessories and vehicles, and one risks over-saturation on the market! However, I envision a crossover between Gorenger and Power Rangers, and it wouldn't be beyond the scope to tease the appearance of the OG Double Riders during such a crossover. Would you like to see those two come in briefly and give a "Rider Double Kick" to a revived Pumpkin Rapper!? |
I also think anything before OOO is probably a bit old now!
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I think it would make sense to use Zero-one, since it's the newest and it has a fairly standard design.
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Pre-W shows I think are a bad choice if they plan to recycle Toei footage. It's like using OG Ultraman footage from the 1960s for a 1990s Ultraman adaptation. If they are willing to use stuff from Blade or Kabuto then they better do 100% original footage if they don't wanna look bad.
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Yeah, I mean in Dragon Knight with the Ryuki footage in SD and I assume the American footage in HD it didn't always quite go for me, I mean that being my childhood I know the difference between 2002 and 2009!
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- Newer footage seems to be the preferred choice these days. No avoiding that one and it definitely offers the opportunity for original storytelling. - International spoilers for Beast Morphers Season 2 offer an interesting answer. A similar method would suffice for backstory. - Almost all Heisei Riders have a movie or feature-length special which is formatted correctly and more easily touched-up to HD if needed. Older footage should be predicated on a movie first, not the series. - By the time one gets to Kabuto or Den-O, if either were to get chosen, then start looking at the series to determine if any of it can be used. The likelihood of any series footage being used at large prior to Decade is unlikely, but should be explored if only to rule it out. - Modern movie crossovers tend to showcase Riders from across the years and such footage isn't so old that it couldn't be selectively used. - Specials with Sentai should be looked at heavily! While older fans who are aware of the Riders would be interested in an adaptation from the get-go to see if it works or not, children at large may not have the same familiarity. Since Sentai has become largely ubiquitous thanks to Power Rangers, any adaptation should be in Hasbro's court so that they can set the Riders within the Ranger Multiverse! However, a Ranger would not have to be appear constantly. It could be the same as "Fourze" visiting KO-35 and fighting Vivix. The door for this one was already left open, both when Sledge name-dropped Planet Kamen-5 in Dino Supercharge and when Shocker Buruburu from the Ninninger VS. Drive Summer Special had a cameo in Super Ninja Steel as one of Sledge's Prison Ship Monsters. |
The oldest Heisei-era Rider I've seen is Kiva, but honestly I don't think it looks too old. It's not like the CGI isn't still pretty lousy.
The main issue I see is that it would be harder to adapt shows that still used film cameras, since almost everything is shot digitally now. |
Honestly, I think the easiest to adapt would be Fourze, as it establishes early the existence of other riders as being considered both an urban legend to the general public and unequivocally true, allowing for W, OOO and Wizard to show up with it not needing to be extensively explained. Also, it’s set in a high school, allowing the adapter to not have make the characters “more relatable” to the target demographics, as they’re already teenagers. I mean, not only does that mean it’s easier to recast the roles if you wanted to fully adapt it, but makes it just as viable to dub it.
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I would rather if none of them got adapted to be honest. If I had to pick one, I think Build would be cool from what I've seen of it.
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I think especially with how far we've gotten with Rider and Ultraman coming to the west, we've passed the need for adaptions and can happily move on to just, straight up having the shows here like we do anime and manga.
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Just get some quality voice actors and go from there with the dub.
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I say Wizard. I wouldn't know what dub terms I would use, but I think it's got what's needed to make Kamen Rider a success over here nowadays.
Gemstone-themed stuff has mass appeal. Always has, always will. Especially if you can wear them on rings, which is this show's main gimmick. Same can be said about magic-based series, those will forever be popular. And of course ya got mythical beasts like dragons & chimeras which kids adore. But personally I would want the main character to be female. I know some folks would see it as a stretch, but I think it needs to happen. Other mainstream brands (Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Transformers) have prominent female lead shows, films, books, etc. This will help keep up with the competition. I see no reason why they couldn't make Wizard a girl given the visuals & themes of the show. The design is perfectly gender-neutral. With a color scheme that's universally appealing in black & red everyone would like it's look. That silhouette can be seen as both masculine & feminine, given the outfit for Wizard has jewel armor with an elegant skirt. And the footage of how Wizard moves in battle is a perfect blend of what you expect either a dude or a chick would stereotypically fight like. I would totally do Wizard in the US. I know it won't ever happen but damnit I wish it would. |
I would say ghost; or kiva, something thats already so horrendous that america can't butcher it any more than it already has been.
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I say OOO because I feel like the animal theme might attract kids especially with OOO getting different powers from which animals he uses and in what combinations. Plus the show is very colorful which might grab a child's attention. Also because I could totally see Hasbro do a Ankh arm toy in a similar manner to the Hulk gloves.
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