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Intense Brutal PR/SS Fight Scenes
First off I'm a Casual PR Fan. I only ever watched MMPR, and bits and pieces of other PR seasons. Ryusoulger is the 1st Super Sentai I've watched completely. Their fighting style seems way more intense and downright Brutal then I remember MMPR ever being. The only fight I think is comparable is the Koragg(Nick) vs Leanbow fight in Mystic Force. I Love These Types of Fights and want to see more of them in PR.
Can anyone suggest Fights in Past PR Seasons that are the same or similar? Is Ryusoulger Different or has PR/SS always had fights like that? |
One of my favorite fight scenes from the franchise was Power Rangers in Space, episode 26: The Secret of the Locket. It featured an extremely intense battle between Andros and Ecliptor, and the best of all, a villain VS villain fight scene.
Another would be the Titanium Ranger introduction arc in Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue, particularly the fight between Titanium VS Pink Ranger, as well as when Titanium Ranger eventually becomes good and beats the three monsters of the week. While obviously Titanium Ranger is a fan favorite because he's the first US exclusive Ranger, the fight scenes really helped making him look badass. When it comes to Power Rangers personally I really prefer the action directing from In Space to Wild Force, imo the best era of Power Rangers when it comes to everything. My gripe with Disney seasons is that they become too obnoxious especially when blasters are firing but only hits the ground because they only have sparks on grounds. And that is why Sentai's fight scenes are a lot different, because they have access and experience of sparks on bodies, so I guess that is what you meant by fights being more brutal. It does help that Japanese children programs are a lot different than American children programs, where Japanese violence have a bit more freedom, and Power Rangers often have to become childish because American (and New Zealand) parents kept complaining that the show is too violent. |
Thanks, I'm going to check out those fights In Space and Light Speed Rescue.
The Ryusoulger Fights I'm thinking of specifically are the Pricious vs All 7 Ryusoulgers, and the 3 Group Fight with Pricious, Saden, Yabbasword, Gunjoj. Maybe it's because the Rangers main weapon is a sword and no ranged weapon except Gold that makes the Fight Scenes so intense? Now that I think about it, Dino Fury will be the 1st Dino Season were the Rangers have No Side Arm right? |
Yeah I know US TV standards are famously very conservative whereas although Britain still is a bit at least we had the odd thing for kids like Grange Hill or Byker Grove which wasn't all happy ever after type thing! What I've always wanted to see more of in tokusatsu is night fights and fights in unusual places but I suppose it's more tricky to film!
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If so, wouldn't Lost Galaxy, Wild Force, Mystic Storm, Jungle Fury, and Ninja Steel qualify? If the context is instead, "no weapon of any sort shared by each member", then Jungle Fury might be first, but only until they obtain their Jungle Master Mode and each of the main three have claws! S.P.D. might be a close second since Red has blasters which aren't duplicated by any other Ranger, but this would be rectified with SWAT Mode. Lost Galaxy had Transdaggers which could assume in number of modes and Quasar Sabers shared by the whole team. Wild Force had Crystal Sabers and individual weapons. Mystic Force had staffs which could transform into weapons (for the guys), and Ninja Steel had a morpher which could act like a claw or a dagger or a bow (Ninninger was different in that the katana was the morpher). |
I meant only Dino Seasons with No Side Arm aka Gun. I know other PR seasons had no Side Arms. I'm still focusing on Intense, Brutal, or Epic Fights from any season. I want to know how Ryusoulger/Dino Fury compare to Past Season Fights.
Also I want to see Every In Suit Fight that was in Ryusoulger In Dino Fury. I hope they don't cut down or edit those scenes more then they have to |
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One fight that will always have feels from me is the Megazord fight in “Ninja Quest Part 1” (MMPR season 3), because it’s not only one of the battles where the villains win outright (A 5-on-2 Handicap Match), but the first time we see the Rangers lose their powers AND their Megazords destroyed and literally fall to pieces.
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I've watched all the Fights suggested and I've notice the major difference between Ryusoulger/Dino Fury to Past Seasons is the use of Special Effects during the Fights. In Suit fights and Zord Fights in Ryusoulger look like anime fight scenes compared to Past Season. They use a lot more energy slash attacks where the others use just sparks on the body attacks. Does Kirameger use just as many special effects in it fights?
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Kiramager is... possibly comparable, but I definitely see what you mean by Ryusoulger standing out as far more intense. Every fight scene it had was just so explosive; they did not do half-measures on these.
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I think part of what makes Ryusoulger distinct is in the show's main director Kazuya Kamihoriuchi who up until this point has only directed a couple of Kamen Rider things. Ryusoulger is not only his first ever Sentai show but it also the first show he been the main director. And the guy has a very distnict style if you've watched some of his Kamen Rider stuff
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- Kamen Sentai Gorider - Kamen Rider Specter - Heisei Generations FINAL - Be The One All of those are movies, aside from Gorider which was a short miniseries. So pretty easy to blast through if you're interested! |
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And here's a clip of one of the episodes he's directed for Kamen Rider from episode 31 of Kamen Rider Build |
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Yes, Kamihoriuchi is the main series director for Ryusoulger, but... series directors aren’t really responsible for action scenes (except in the occasional, heavily story-based action scene). The action directors are. In Sentai’s case, Hirofumi Fukuzawa has been the main action director since Go-Busters. Now, that’s not to say that there isn’t some collaboration between a main series director and the action director. There definitely is. But the main creative forces in the fight scenes are the action directors. Basically, if you like the action in Ryusoulger, you’ll probably find something to like about the action scenes in all the post-Go-Busters series. I, personally, think Fukuzawa is very hit-or-miss. The action in earlier shows is wayyy more visceral and cinematic, IMO. For 90s series, check out the fights from Dairanger and Ohranger. For 80s series, check out Bioman and Maskman. For more modern series, check out the action in Shinkenger and Gokaiger. There’s also some badass stuff in JAKQ, but it takes some commitment and patience to get into the wayyy older shows. Those are my top tier recommendations. |
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So I did some research, in Sentai or rather Japanese Toku, sparks on bodies are commonplace, especially when the person is hit by swords or blasters. However recently, as evidenced by Ryusoulger, these sparks are replaced by CGI sparks, possibly to cut costs http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1605515143 When it comes to Power Rangers, the use of sparks are very rare, especially on Saban era and Neo-Saban - Beast Morphers era. Mostly this is due to budget costs I assume. The only exception seem to be Disney era because of the amount of Kalishposions, however Kalishplosions are notorious for having sparks explode on the ground, which caused the criticism of Disney era action scenes that blasters often times hit the ground instead of bodies. Understandably this due to safety I assume, since the actors are wearing spandex and from what I've seen, sparks on bodies usually apply on suits that are thicker aka have armors. This is evidenced by one scene in Dino Thunder, while the Tyrannodrones are sporting the body sparks http://www.tokunation.com/attachment...1&d=1605515143 Just a fun thing I've noticed when it comes to explosions in Toku. |
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This is even more as Dino Fury will feature a gender swapped Green Ranger, in which they will most likely utilize original footage more than usual. Unless the production quality has significantly risen for Dino Fury, I doubt the fights will be as intense as Ryusoulger's. |
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The obvious chess theme doesn't lend itself easy to "Evil Space Aliens"! Will they replace them outright, have two separate grunt groups (which isn't uncommon) with one being wholly original, OR two separate grunt groups with one being ripped from a completely separate Sentai? |
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... and this is all ignoring that in Ryusoulger, the villains were all aliens. |
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This is the type of Fighting I'm Talking About. Do you think Dino Fury will Cut Out Scenes like this?
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I wouldn’t call that particularly brutal. Brutal would be a character breaking a limb or bleeding out. Those are the type of fights they’re likely to cut out. (Along with any where the human actors can clearly be seen)
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Ah, so you just want explosive fights. PR has plenty of that in the Disney era (however it may get annoying especially the sound effects).
When it comes to explosive fights Koichi Sakamoto is the master. He directed the action sequence for majority of Power Rangers up until RPM and returned to Japan since (he did return for Super Megaforce finale but we don't talk about that). You can watch Super Sentai Strongest Battle since it's just 4 episodes (or a singular movie) and he directed all four, and it's the epitome of his explosive style of action scenes. There is a reason why fandom calls him the Japanese Michael Bay. Because explosions, and he likes action girls. |
I'm new to PR, How much In Suit Footage Do they use? Like say 75%? How much did they use for Dino Charge, or Megaforce?
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Side note, Does Kirameiger Red take any of he's fights seriously where he's not joking around at all? |
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Honestly you should see more sentai fights. Those are brutal. I highly suggest watching Gosei Sentai Dairanger - those fights are insane - how's about a footage of the red sentai senshi exploding a monster to death by punching it?
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