Kamen Rider Revice Episode 6- "Evils' True Identity! Shocking Showtime!" Discussion
 

Ikki and his friends must work together to uncover the secrets of the strange new Rider.

I liked this episode. Though it did feel like it should have been a two-parter kind of arc, like it really felt fast! Ikki big brain tho haha.

Next week, KADOTA BROS WE WON

I do appreciate that the evil Rider for an anniversary series has his main form based around the iconic Bat Kaijin, although it looks like they're giving the Spider to another Rider. Although Evil has the Shadow Moon dynamic of the "evil" brother.

Ikki's dad trying to seem more competent and knowledgeable to impress his kids.

Some Ikki and George fanservice.

Here's Vice, everybody! Also, Great Detective Vice!

Not the first evil or morally dark lawyer in Kamen Rider, although come to think of it I don't think we see a lot of court scenes. Could we ever see a Main Rider that's a lawyer?

Kangaroo Deadman! Sure made good use of those legs. I liked the combination of Mammoth + Megalodon + Lion Genome's to beat him. The Lion Genome's Finisher reminded me of a Zoid.

Sakura sure is flexible.

Can Evil and the next Deadman stand up to the Ex-Aid/Jackal Genome and the power of rad skateboard skills?

Don't we wish as I would. Check out the Reiwa fan rider series I have in mind. Kitaoka/Zolda is a lawyer too.

ok 2 things so while I had 0 doubts Daji would eventually become the second rider him straight up being Evil didn't make sense but the route they're going (possessed and/or Devilman/demon taking advantage of his insecurities) does.

George you weird, weird motherfucker.

Lots of fun misdirection going on in this one and the last! I appreciate that they made the outcome not totally obvious and I'm at least intrigued enough to see where this'll go. Still very disappointed that modern Rider can never go back to the day of OOO or Wizard where they could just keep Kamen Rider as a singular hero until Christmas but hey, Evil and Hiromi at least have interesting stuff going on

I need to give Ikki more credit. He's so deceptive that he immediately expects Kudo to deceive him and then deceives him back by pretending to be deceived! The way he crashed the courtroom and let Kudo monologue before turning and presenting the evidence was very cool as well.

Vice also played an important part. Looks like having a devil can be pretty useful as long as you can control them. He basically functions as a familiar here being able to discreetly scout the room for hidden evidence. Thanks to the Gundephone, Ikki now has proof that he's not crazy and Vice actually exists. Takeru could've used one of those for Yurusen so his clients wouldn't think he's crazy. Not sure how Vice planned to eat that ramune without a physical body (and while wearing a mask), unless he was actually expecting Ikki to henshin just to feed him.

As for a person who can't control their devil, Daiji is being influenced directly by "Kagerou", which we're led to believe is due to George giving him the Driver to become the aptly named Evil. However, since Hiromi noticed that Daiji wasn't getting much sleep, I'm starting to think that maybe this development was something that happened on its own and Kagerou is taking Daiji's body on joyrides without him noticing. George might just be taking advantage of that to test his new technology. At least Daiji is probably safe from that neck-snapping move he was practising before.

I didn't mention Lion Genome's Machine parallel in the last episode, but I'm not sure if it actually has one. Sawtooth is a smilodon, but that's a tiger, not a lion. Megalodon's here as well, with absolutely no explanation given, but the Remix has yet to debut for that.

I’m pretty interested in what is going on with Daiji, but it does feel like it is going a little fast at the same time. I hope the show gives us a little more breathing room later on to have calmer moments more often.

George continues to be the most *something* character I’ve seen in a toku.

Other than Hiromi getting what he deserves, one things I'm looking forward to is Sakura's development. It's in the background, but you can tell something will happen. And now we have Julio in the mix with it.


And I kinda ship them...

Uffff... Probably the first really bad episode.

First of all, why did they even go to Ikki with this when they not mention the Deadman with any word in the original talk.

Second, it's a miracle these two weren't busted before because, wow, they were bad at this! Like, "Let's discuss our evil plan with an unlocked door in an office building. Cleary won't bite us!" or, "Oh, sure, leave your obvious phone in your lap, pointed at me. Nothing wrong with that!" Like... Wow, were these two idiots.

And it all felt sooo rushed. This needed one more episode not to come off as overcrowded.

As for the Evil revile... Don't like it. I mean, that it was him was pretty obvious, but making it his demon just... Feels like it makes things so much less interesting. Why not let him be in charge and only be influenced? Would be far more interesting.

Also, George is so blatantly evil, it's hilarious.

Because the previous episode established Papa-san creating a YT vid of advertising the bath house as some "solve your issues with Ikki-san!" establishment. Unfortunately not FENIX sponsored and so they racked up debt.


I can agree with this. Reminds me of Zero-One's job arc except this one's super fast instead of the aforementioned slow pace. Ikki pulls a big brain on these so fast, I feel like it should have been a two-parter. Tho, I did like that end part where Kamen Rider Tyrant- I mean the lawyer says 'HARD WORK DOESN'T PAY OFF!' and just stares in the world waiting to be arrested, it's a small callback to when Ikki told the youtuber to 'try harder' or something like that. Ikki definitely felt something there, considering he nods a little.

Edit: I do feel kinda empathetic towards Tyrant- I mean lawyer-san. He's a terrible lawyer as mentioned at the start of the episode. In a slump where the only way he was successful was using a Deadman. Gracias Deadmans? A terrible joke with how Ikki quickly dealt with the monster and the dirtbag judge. So, he just stands there, waiting for to be turned in by the cops.

In short, Hard work doesn't pay off. Many people think the same. is actually a pretty somber last words for the episode to end on. I mean, yeah, we had the scene with Julio and Kagerou, the episode truly ended there.

I mean, sure, but what weirdo goes to a bathhouse, even if there is a fix-it offer, to clear a court case? It feels awfully weird to me.

Lawyer was in cahoots with the judge and uses a Kangaroo Deadman.

I guess you could say that was a "Kangaroo Court"

Given the whole “Contract holder is negative reflection of corresponding Rider” thing, Kangaroo could work as Zero-One.

True, but last time also had Ikki only giving shallow advice on any request not related to the Deadmans, not immediately committing to getting directly involved like this. And sure, this is a situation serious enough that I could see why he'd want to help, but it still would have made things a lot smoother to have a moment to go 'That's definitely worrying, but its way out of my expertise... Am I your best option for help?' (client brings up something demon related) 'Oh, ok! Now I see how I can assist.'

...But this episode's plot was super half baked anyways, so, eh. This writer really isn't impressing me with his single episode plots so far.

This probably wasn't intentional, but did anyone else catch the Hunter X Hunter reference?

Did Vice just make an Ultraman reference?

Double Review, because I'm late, internet problems, lack of getting anything done, but not a lot to say but, things are really moving fast now, huh?

Last episode had a good premise, same with this one, but felt like they were trying to introduce the new Riders as quickly as possible, which I don't know how I feel about Reiwa Rider. Criticisms aside, I notice that the Lion Deadmans has OOO's color palette, don't know whether that was intentional or not, but I won't try to discern anything from it. Absolutely loved Lion Genome, probably my favorite, but I'll wait until they've all been shown off, and nice detail showcasing how tough the Generals are, even if Olteca got owned.

This episode reminded me of the Zero-One court episode, and showed Ikki hustling everyone. I would have thought Vice would be revealed to everyone later, but I also thought the same about other things in this show. It was a nice bait-and-switch, and shows that Demons can take over people (or at least, hints at it), adding to the theory about the one shot of Ikki in the opening.

Now the Deadmans are targeting Ikki's siblings, George is letting Evil run amok, Kuroda is going to become Spiderman, still good stuff.

Next Episode: "Who are you?"
-Lazer: "I'm a bike!"
-Vice: "I'm a skateboard!"
-Kuroda: "An emissary from hell!"

I only just noticed that the colours of the Vistamps match the Riders they're based on (except Fourze for some reason). The Kangaroo Proto Vistamp has the same yellow as Zero-One, though the kangaroo image itself is orange. They could make the antennae on Zero-One's helmet into kangaroo ears

Philosphically, I love this series. There's something unique and mature about it that can be packaged to be childish. There's this vibe of half Faiz and half Gaim about it but all Double. The main character is coming from a STABLE FAMILY, for one, but one of them is a risk taking, soldier dude, and one of them repress a grudge and resulting in harboring a sentient demon inside it. There's something crazy about this family. I will not be surprised if in the end Giffu-sama is Ikki dan Daiji's mom...I don't care how, I don't care why, but I won't be surprised if that's the twist.

Well, I guess GenmCorp (who'd release both ep. 5 and 6) is late again, so I had to watch another sub again as this is Saturday now. This episode is another attempt of red herring of Daiji being evil but actually not, it's Daiji's inner demon Kagerou instead. This'd raise questions that'll drive the story further forward, like how does Kagerou work differently from Daiji such as being able to possess him outright and that the Rider form Evil is only 1 instead of 2-in-1 like Revice. I do think that the episode does good job for the red herring, with the foreshadowing that Kagerou can eat extremely spicy foods without problem unlike Daiji himself according to his family, though of course it's quite inherent if the evil had the same look to the original (especially the scans that it only shows Wataru Hyuga wearing sinister black outfit). I also wonder if this'd be the opposite of how in the past, probably except Kiva, the "dark clone" of the Rider appears first then the more heroic version (either anti or straight) appears later in original Daiji, unlike Riders such as Ryuki & Ryuga, Kabuto & Dark Kabuto, etc. Though Evil blatantly displayed his strength...Revice wasn't reverted back to human form...

The one that'd make it happen, George, probably now cements him as evil guy, who just happens to be in a good organization/job Fenix, where any other members are so far genuinely heroic, albeit Wakabayashi can be too tough for any little situation. Now I got more glimpse of George, I wonder if he'd be someone similar into the likes of DJ Sagara or Blood Stalk, who manipulates both sides that neither will have an advantage, now by willingly giving the TwoSiDriver to Kagerou, which he knew that it wasn't Daiji, by his statement of Wakabayashi being half-wrong. If Revice teaches morals too, probably I'd like for George to be used to teach the misunderstanding of why Kamen Riders are seen as admirable, like currently he seems to value the chaos and violence (like his solution before being Rider Kicking) instead of the heroism value they (not all) display; done in a major character instead of a minor one. This'd also mean that George isn't a good counterpart of Aguilera, but just the technology counterpart of her.... both him and Deadmans give powers to questionable individuals that lets them be more unrepentant in their evil! (interested in Deadman's other moves other than giving people ViStamps like Julio at the dojo too) The scans show Kadota turning into a Rider... I hope it's not an easy solution that he's just being able to henshin, I want to know how the series would handle Kadota's inner demon that he can properly henshin and fight for justice. I also wonder if the female Fenix member that helps up Kadota will be the series' secondary heroine, t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶r̶s̶e̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶r̶y̶'̶s̶ ̶p̶o̶o̶r̶ ̶E̶n̶g̶l̶i̶s̶h̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶b̶i̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶(̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶"̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶e̶n̶t̶i̶t̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶o̶p̶i̶n̶i̶o̶n̶"̶ ̶e̶x̶c̶u̶s̶e̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶o̶p̶i̶n̶i̶o̶n̶s̶)̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶l̶i̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶A̶g̶u̶i̶l̶e̶r̶a̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶o̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶s̶m̶h̶.̶.̶.̶.̶ though ofc it's unknown if Aguilera will go into the same redemption path as Parado did (albeit Parado's happened very late in the show), and that some heroines (anti or straight) do start off as villains, such as Yoko from Gaim.

Following last episode, it seems that Shiawase-Yu/Happy Spa now serves as more than just an onsen... as Yukari Naruse visits it not to take a bath (at least not onscreen), but to request for their help regarding her aspiring actor younger brother Masaru who had a car accident but with the culprit Tsuyoshi Eguchi being declared innocent due to the changing lawyer and the crime details. Probably both Ikki and Sakura tolerate requests like that more as it's not a petty request like some of the questions before that can be done by themselves, despite that the request would be significantly more difficult to do. Can't talk further about Naruse siblings though. But would talk about the others in this situation; the corrupt lawyer Yasushi Kudo did a good job in his portrayal to get the character to be disliked/hated (subjective) I think in his slimy lying ageism bastard practices, nailing negative stereotypes of a corrupt authority figure, including a notoriety in lawyers changing the facts to “win” their case. And this isn't a case of an 'asshole being easier to hate than a villain' because he's an actual villain, albeit as usual, superpowers amplify his villainy's impact in the Kangaroo ViStamp (given by the Deadmans). He and his ViStamp also invokes a literal case of kangaroo court, which means an unfair and biased selection of judge and/or jurors specifically made to attack or rig a verdict for or against the accused, and he uses the ViStamp to rig his courtroom cases. As he's obsessed with winning cases (from his previously poor record), the "win" for now is when Egushi is declared innocent, but at the end he'd deflect the blame on Eguchi running with the ViStamp out of a cowardly move... I don't know how'd he progress after that if he'd want to prove Egushi being innocent... probably being an irrational coward that he won't realize that he screwed himself (unless he'd change his mind about Egushi being guilty) even without Ikki and Vice's involvement? His excuse is that hard work doesn't pay off... but if he had poor record before, dunno about how much hard work he accomplished.... he's probably just isn't good enough of a speaker without using a threat by force, but worse he had a lack of moral to go as far as injuring the bunch of witnesses too. He's clearly evil, but I wonder what'd make another amoral attorney in this franchise, Kitaoka from Ryuki, doesn't seem evil (though he's still clearly morally grey) other than having a lead role (perspective). He's someone who's obsessed with winning and records regardless of the cilent being innocent or guilty, but I guess he'd need to also feed Magnugiga the witnesses or such to be outright evil like Kudo, which is what Scissors did instead (to cover up his corrupt practices) for Ryuki. Though his villainy is caught, there's still no conclusion of his fate, hope that'd be addressed in next one.

The episode finally has another (almost) full family moments again. Yukimi's still in hospital, but it's indirectly shown in her not being present instead of a scene of her in hospital. Genta's actor Shigeyuki Totsugi claims Genta has untold secrets, and I thought it's done here with Genta being able to provide a vital information that the corrupt lawyer is Yasushi Kudo, but apparently it's still not, he's only riding on Bu-san's contributions. I'd hope Totsugi can live up to his words later time, currently Genta just reveals more of his bumbling traits, of him being easily impressed due to having so low standards that they regularly get dazzled by things both the other characters and the audience don't find too amazing. And that trait is commonly used in comic relief (which he definitely is) or childish naivety trait... which'd make Genta a manchild.

More new things for Sakura in her cooking being made extremely spicy... and her at the end admitting that she can only let herself loose, I changed my stance on this several times before, but here I can understand better, probably Sakura's edgy towards her family (there's a limit though like Ikki's contribution here and ep. 4), but usually not for others (except Yoshida, who is a criminal.. she can justify those who did good traits though), like to Yukari and how she's welcoming to a 'new male karate student'...who is Julio in disguise, even accepting his "help" despite that she's much superior. Still'd want to know the root of her being edgy to her family though particularly Genta (Ikki had poor reaction too but not as hostile), of which probably they'd explore. It'd be creative if her cooking is directly used as a metaphor to her demeanor, of which the cooking is shown to be really spicy, which she realizes as a mistake, warning "Daiji" too for that, and that being used as a driving factor of Sakura to take into account of her edginess to change or such; realizing that she treats others (family in particular) 'too spicy' as well.

Ikki finally reveals about his connection to Vice to others via Gundephone, of which I'd hope he also explains that his random outburst is him interacting (get angry at) with the unseen demon. He really shines in this episode, of him having no problem in outwitting Kudo, and this shows how despite Kudo having superpowers to gain upper hand to others, it'd not be an immediate advantage to others having the same, and Vice's supernatural trait is really vital on investigation and is used in a smart way here that he can phase through hidden stuff that Kudo does have the ViStamp.. as well as the note of the next witness coming tomorrow 9, possessing her phone to record the conversation. Other than Vice's contribution, Ikki knowing better about Kudo deceiving him (with his associate) at the end is all on himself though, from his skills at sleight of hand before. Don't know what takes him that long to confront Kudo again though (at night), probably waiting for Fenix to check on Eguchi? His fighting skill was also genuine here (he was quite sloppy in his human fighting scene before) to put down the associate without problem.

The episode overall had less of the fight compared to the previous ones, not even a new form, but probably it pays off in fleshing out the existing characters more.