Kamen Rider Revice Episode 49- "Only The Demon Remains!" Discussion
 

Ikki has faded from his family's memories. He seeks a normal life on his own, only to be confronted by a corrupted Vice.

I know how this'll end so why am I crying...?

Well, after all, the end of this story will happen in the final episode. And I was already preparing for a big review about the whole show. Returning to this episode: everything is predictable, but with little cute life details and smart moves that give everything weight and life. Still, it seems to me that they overdid it a little with the final problem. Also, I don't really like that Ikki spent a year learning not to be embarrassed to be an egoist, so that in the end he didn't even have the right to choose in the final. After all, it's not that Ikki has to choose between Vice and the rest of the family - everything is decided for him. For the same reasons, I don't like that other characters are involved in deception. I think it would be better if Vice made everyone believe that he was an evil, insidious demon who waited until the very end.

Why did this episode go above and beyond in making Ikki and Vice look like a married couple????

For real though, seeing them adjust to their life as housemates, eating dinner, and Vice sending off Ikki to a job interview etc... It's actually literally the most invested I've been watching these two since episode 2.

Which is the whole point, now that I think about it, since the final conflict in this show is now all about Vice's bond with Ikki being sacrificed so that Ikki can be with his family. But honestly, I liked seeing the two of them so much in this episode, maybe I'm rooting for Ikki to just leave his old life at the bathhouse behind after all and embrace his new life with his demon : P If there wasn't only one episode left, they should film new scenes in the opening of Revi and Vice cooking ramen in that restaurant.

I'm happy that Hiromi and George got to have their date, always fun to have a bit of bromance in Rider, which I felt was definitely missing a bit this season.

Also them arguing over how to say parfait was adorable.

To be honest, Hiromi and George are beyond bromance to me. Rather, somewhere on the same territory as Sakura and Hana.

I know you joke, but... This is honestly straight up my opinion xD
Especially after the Igarashis are willing to kill Vice, someone they know Ikki sees as family, even if it happens with Vice's permission.
That is kinda Ikki's call to make, not any of yours. You all should be ashamed!

Also, Ikki? How did you fall for this basic lie? I thought you trusted Vice? You really shouldn't fall for this at all!

Seriously, I'm not invested in this cast, but this whole situation kinda makes my blood boil. I can't wait till this show is over.

I think this is one of the better episodes lately, but it also feels... misplaced? It feels like the kind of drama that shouldn't happen at the very end. One thing I liked about this episode is how it had more moments of levity. Revice in general feels lacking on that front a lot of the time, and having small scenes to endear you to characters like Vice going shopping and Hiromi and George arguing over how to say parfait on their date is just... really welcome!

bold prediction time Ikki seemingly kills Vice only for some deus Ex MAchina to bring him back this episode was good however like many good things in Revice it comes with a colossal BUT(that being how obvious the ending is now if they pulled something completely out of left field like say Vice killing everyone that'd be a problem in of itself)

I have a feeling that the extra 'final form' LiveDevil Stamp or whatever they'll call it is going to bring Vice back or something along those lines.

The only good thing from this episode is Vice become a giant duck.

Overall, most of the parts from this episode is really boring....

The next episode, it still looks really boring. But Decade final episode is still the worst final episode in Kamen Rider series.

Damnit I agree, and I?m a Decade mark

Wait am I the only one who found Vice's gambit touching? I mean, yeah it could have been better executed but it still tugged my heartstrings somewhere.

Yeah, misplaced is right. This subplot would've been more fitting for maybe the 30s episode range, instead of letting it lose any momentum until people stop caring. It's just way too small and contained to carry a final arc. Vice's betrayal is a sham, as we all know he didn't really eat the Igarashis and he doesn't intend on eating anyone, any ambiguity is completely tossed aside as soon as the family shows up to provide exposition. If Vice is supposed to claim the title of a final villain, then he's basically a fraud.

The George/Hiromi scenes are cute though! :D

That was a surprising and cool reference to the movie! Except now the devil duck has Ultimate Vice's color, which is strong enough to defeat Destream!

Personally, I'd say Gaim has the worst final episode. Followed by Ryuki and then, Decade.

Ending the series with Vice dying is…hu…well it’s weird they didn’t find a way to rewrite the contract or anything.
I think it sucks. This whole ?*Ikki is forgetting things*? is shitty.
He is the only one to have drawbacks while transforming it’s stupid af.

That's not true. Hiromi's body was basically shutting down as he continued to use the Demons Driver.
But aside from that, of the Igarashi's, he was the only one to make a contract.
Kagerou just emerged from Daiji due to his inner feelings being let loose, while Lovekov was just the result of Sakura acknowledging her weaknesses. They never actually made contracts with their demons.
I think Genta did something or another, but I couldn't be assed to watch Vail and see :lol

Tokunation administration, I think these comments should be deleted. Yes, and block the profile itself, because this is a clear hatred with a claim to trolling.

Once again, I respect and appreciate Hanta Kinoshita's decision to focus more on its characters in these few episodes. This story started with our protagonist, Ikki and Revice. So it's no-brainer for the show to end with these two characters as the focal point. It's kinda refreshing to see a Kamen Rider's final episodes to be so calming and warming like this. There's no bombastic apocalypse like Saber and no huge tension like Zero-One. It's refreshing to see these characters to have daily activities like normal person. Even Vice's actions in this episodes more or less an annoying prank. This might be the most relaxing several episodes leading to the finale since Agito's epilogue arc. Once again, I can't stress how much I love the way these last couple of episodes were shaping up. I will elaborate more about my thoughts of Revice next week but up to this point, I have a nice experience watching Revice. Not as good as Saber but there's less head-banging moments than Zero-One.

Yikes this person really made a brand new account to validate their negative feelings about a kids TV show. Maybe find a new hobby, mate.

So Ikki's amnesia stuff is only used to wrap-up the story. Kinda explains why it's so little brought up before, despite it being the lead character's arc. Now I know the reason why it's so left out, but this doesn't change my view of how it's another Revice wasted potential that it made Ikki seem overshadowed in the 2nd half of the show instead (after what I think, is a good MC potential of exploring hero complex problems).

Turns out George still appeared after last seen breaking down over Masumi, and not only that the "date" Hiromi asked him before actually happened here, he's quite significant here to use his scientist knowledge to theorize something (which he didn't do so due to being temporarily villainous). About how the contract between Ikki and Vice hasn't ended because .... and Ikki previously acknowledged Vice as something more than a partner, family.

That'd be normally touching, if not for how it's the actual cause of the tragedy in this episode. Though the amnesia arc is quite a waste especially for Ikki's role, I do feel bad at how in Ikki's POV here, Vice is truly the scumbag he despised at the beginning of the series, though now he had hard time accepting it due to Vice being his actual partner for so long. It personally hits home for me as, though I often assume the worst of people, that assumption turning to be the truth is also my biggest fear, and Ikki would go through that here regarding how he hated Vice at first for justified reasons.

Ikki not being able to fit in with his family and later leaving them also at least increases the impact of Ikki's amnesia, despite that it's only him forgetting, not others. The Igarashis trying to get him back is a more difficult task than imagined, and it requires more than just reminding him that they're his family, but also reminding him of their quirks, banters, etc. A̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶A̶r̶u̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶e̶a̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶I̶z̶u̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶Z̶e̶r̶o̶-̶O̶n̶e̶.̶ A loss of a family member would be hard to swallow, even if it's only one member, and now, it'd be what potentially happened to Ikki, had he killed Vice and that his memories would return by that.

I'd tolerate Vice's antics in this episode, as unlike many other cruel to be kind approaches, this one's genuinely has no other solution to solve Ikki's problem (while other cruel to be kind scenario got the audience, or sometimes people, subjectively paint that method as the only way), as per how the contract worked, and for here, hating Vice is the main objective here, instead of the usual side effect of someone being cruel to be kind. And perhaps, there are no real damage done to everyone, other than emotional damage to Ikki alone. Though I predicted it, I genuinely laughed too seeing Sakura and Yukimi holding ketchup bottles at the end. Other than that, this is also a display of teamwork done by all the cast (except Ikki), to have everyone being onboard with Vice's plan to return Ikki's memories, and have each of them serve their roles well, probably even some of the civilians there. The cast perhaps can make a good movie/TV show team too by this!

Other than comedy material, Vice weaponizing a rubber duck to "defeat" Dadstream is also a sight to behold. The duck also provides some real spectacle that makes itself look "strong" to put down Destream. It's also a call-back to Revice: The Movie (though haven't watched it yet).

Digging deeper than that.... Hiromi and Sakura can be comparable to each other IMO. They both have serious/tough outer shell, but are good person, and are already ambitious since young age, Hiromi wanting to become a hero due to his bullied victim past, and Sakura wanting to become the unbeatable fighter. Beneath their serious/tough outer shell, there are vulnerabilities where they've been stuck in denial and can't own up to a crippling fear of failure, such as Sakura's defeat at Aguilera's hands. Hiromi also had an example in him perceiving his younger self as a failure, and was embarassed for that. Later Sakura succeeded by being truthful and accepting to herself, which earned her Lovekov and Jeanne, and while taking longer time, Hiromi would eventually achieve that too much later likely after Dear Gaga.

At least at their early portrayal, unpopular but I also found some similarities between George and Aguilera. Both have similar style to me of speaking to others, presents smile and joyful disposition but has obvious maliciousness among it, won't treat others seriously, constantly taunting others. If George is a Kamen Rider fan, then Aguilera could be the kaijin counterpart to him (the kaijin fan instead), who gets excited when the stronger Deadmans appear, also only interacting with humans who show potential to become Phase 2 Deadman or higher.

I think we all saw this coming...

Of course, Vice would be the key to Ikki's memories. Of course, they set up the fight to hopefully restore them.

I'll fully admit, this is a great idea. It leads us to break up the main characters for a final farewell, and it certainly has the stakes for a season about family and making peace with your demons.

But ultimately, Revice was a little too clunky to justify this moment. Which is a real shame, since Revice had one of my favorite debuts. I like the idea they were going for, but I just feel like it's too little too late, much like with George becoming Jyuuga (remember that?).

I'll save final thoughts for the final episode, but it probably won't be enough to put this one over Saber and Zero-one as far as Reiwa is concerned.

Final Episode: Just Revice.

Again it's cbecoming more obvious by the day that Revice was supposed to be an around 35 episode long show (or it seriously feels like the plot was supposed to be such) forcefully padded to be 15 episodes longer than it needed to be like this show IMO had a LOT of good ideas but failed to execute most if not all of them (the Genta plot being the one exception) (And drink everytime they just made Vice look suspicious for an episodes length or Daiji be the dumbest character in the franchise has seen in quite a while for an episode, when the writers didn't know what to do)(on one hand I get that these are merchandise driven shows and there's not much that could be done about the episode length when the goal is to sell a year's worth of Merch(And Revice isn't the first Rider show I've seen to have this problem (Ex-Aid and Build each imo had episodes that felt like they purely existed so they didn't get ahead of the toy release schedule)), but I also view the writers as failing by writing what it feels like the beginning and end of the story but neglecting to write the middle until they HAD too)

To be fair, Revice is not the first season of Riders to have a plot too short for 40+ episodes. And Kinoshita is also a newbie, so he should be forgiven until next time. But yes, it's a pity that everything turned out this way, because the show has a lot of ruined potential.