[Starscream Gaga]

I'm actually completely on Locke with this.

"Average" doesn't describe the ToQger line. It has an awesome Changer, a half-decent gun and then crap. The auxiliary mecha so far are jokes, I actually can't believe Tank Train is being sold separately as if it has some merits by itself, its combination is probably the laziest combinations we've ever had and ToQoh is an incredibly simple mecha with none of the fun gimmicks that previous very simple mecha have had. Before him, there's always been a reason for really simple mecha, hollow spring-loaded opening parts for a line-wide gimmick, electronics, etc but ToQoh has nothing, he's literally, "line-up the trains, fold two parts of the Red Train and DONE!" with absolutely zero gimmicks. Functionality with the Changer aside (which Kyoryuger managed without nixing the actual mecha completely of gimmicks) ToQoh does absolutely nothing, which usually only happens on mecha that are fantastic on their own (Magiking, Gaoking) or very old. Its pretty unjustifiable. Doesn't help that Gokaioh and Kyoryujin, the last two simple mecha, were, unless I'm mistaken, the biggest (Kyoryujin) and one of the (second?) biggest (Gokaioh) core mecha we've ever gotten and had awesome gimmicks that extended across their whole line while gimmick-less ToQoh is dead average in height and pretty small in overall mass. The fact that Dieseloh seems to be the exact same situation, just with slightly more transforming of the main train, to me, is a big problem and doesn't give me much hope on the future of the ToQger toyline.

I love collecting DX mecha and I do own ToQoh because I want all core mecha, but I really am disappointed with ToQger mechs. I really feel like they've been super lazy with them. I admit ToQoh's looks have "grown" on me, but that doesn't mean I'm going to excuse the fact that he's extremely lazy and my first reaction after playing him was "Oh. Meh". I love the show, but the toyline is crap. The Changer is great and I play with it often and I own ToQoh for completion reasons but there is NONE of the temptation I get with nearly every other series to go out and buy everything.

Of course, this is my opinion, but I really don't need to actually point that out. I don't think less of people that do like the ToQger toyline, but to me its just not up to scratch. I don't think there's a problem with discussing why we don't like something or asking others why they do, because its all in the discussion of the toy. I could understand if the reasons for not liking it were stupid, but I think they're fairly justifiable.