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Kamen Rider Gaim 36 "The Brothers' Showdown! Zangetsu vs Zangetsu Shin!" Discussion
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So sinking into the water is not on-screen?
Not shown the way it was in the episode, it's not. An on-screen death is when someone dies on-screen. That has not happened yet with Takatora. It didn't happen with Sid either because the camera pans up, but unlike Sid's death, there is actually room for Takatora to have escaped it, albeit narrowly.
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We've never seen a dead body of Hase and Sid- we even had the camera turn away when Sid was squished, so you could also go and say: Well, but he might have escaped...! It might be not as possible as Takatora being resuced from the water, but it's an option you could think of.
No, because the circumstances are quite different. Hase EXPLODES on camera, effectively destroying any chance of his survival outside of total asspulling, and Sid was crushed between rocks, with SEVERAL witnesses surrounding and the only reason the audience personally didn't see it is because it would've been too graphic for the kiddies. Not to mention that getting crushed in between rocks results in a more instant death than drowning, which at very least leaves room for survival. I mean, unless you can find non-farfetched scenarios where Sid survives. The only one I can think of is Sid miraculously falling in between the two spots on either side of the rock with a dent big enough to leave space for something human sized, and then Sid somehow finding his way out from there. Or they can pull a Naruto and find its and bits of pieces of him and try to repair him....somehow. I mean, you really have to stretch to make any chance of him surviving work. You don't have to do that for Takatora.
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Just because the show didn't leave deaths ambiguous so far, it doesn't mean it always has to do so. It's actually a pretty good method to create suspense. Also, we don't even know if the prologue scene is actually the future, or the past, or a parallel universe or who knows what. Remember which groups are fighting which? At this point, why should Micchy join forces with Takatora? Or rather say, why would Takatora fight side by side with a brother that tried to kill him? And why would Kaito and Jonouchi fight Kouta? At the current point, this scene would not make a tiny bit of sense. Besides, Takatoras Sengoku Driver might be broken by now, so how is he supposed to transform into Zangetsu again? I don't think Ryoma will come around and repair it, after trying to kill his former friend a while ago.
Fair enough. I don't think any of us know what the prologue actually is but it's in the show for a reason, I'd think it hold at least some merit, albeit a very small amount. Could just be symbolic of everything that's happened through the show too, so I'll give you that.
But again, I'm not saying that he definitely survived or that he's truly dead, I'm just saying, factoring everything in, I personally find more reason to think he's still alive than dead.
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