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yami4ct · 01-10-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drakkhen

There are companies that stream for free. Several anime companies have free streams of subs on their web sites. Funimation has subs and dubs for free on their you tube channel(please keep funi sucks comments out of this).

People that get fansubs know this. They don't care. All I hear around the net is crap like "fansubs are BETTER than official subs". Crunchy is also only 6.95 a month. That money helps get more anime here for them to stream. I have a CR account, and I enjoy the heck out of it.

The anime companies have adapted. The fansubbers STILL fansub licensed materials. Fansub downloaders STILL download from them.

And the companies that stream for free are doing very well. The cost of subs and bandwidth are relatively low and the ad revenue from those viewers, while still not quite the level it needs to be at, is enough to make a nice profit on most reasonably popular shows. Tiger and Bunny was a huge success on Hulu. You can't tell me that hasn't taken a major chunk out of fan subs. Companies shouldn't even worry about the people who only use fan subs, as they are such a minor group and you won't bring them in anyway.

The major problem steaming has right now is A)Lack of great broadband in a lot of more rural parts of the US and other nations and B)Stupid world lockouts that stop people from, say, England or Australia to watch Hulu.

I'm still saying piracy is not the problem it's perceived to be. It's not what's "killing" the anime market, or in this case Bandai Entertainment. It's lack of good, quick, availability and the insistence on trying to sell $30 DVDs with only 4 episodes. Give a well priced, super easy way to access your product, and the majority of people will forgo piracy to go for it. Don't even worry about the rest who insist on breaking the law.

I'll point everyone to an arstechnica article on the broader subject that crystalizes my view on piracy. I don't think I can put my thoughts better into words than they have. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...bittorrent.ars

I'd love to see someone do a similar, more in-depth, data study on anime. Take shows that have always been streamed, like Tiger & Bunny, and compare the streams with the US BitTorrent downloads of that show. Let's see how often One Piece is pirated now that it's streamed day and date vs when it was just released on DVD. Great article idea for someone like ANN.

01-10-2012, 08:20 PM	#13
yami4ct Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 115	Quote: Originally Posted by Drakkhen There are companies that stream for free. Several anime companies have free streams of subs on their web sites. Funimation has subs and dubs for free on their you tube channel(please keep funi sucks comments out of this). People that get fansubs know this. They don't care. All I hear around the net is crap like "fansubs are BETTER than official subs". Crunchy is also only 6.95 a month. That money helps get more anime here for them to stream. I have a CR account, and I enjoy the heck out of it. The anime companies have adapted. The fansubbers STILL fansub licensed materials. Fansub downloaders STILL download from them. And the companies that stream for free are doing very well. The cost of subs and bandwidth are relatively low and the ad revenue from those viewers, while still not quite the level it needs to be at, is enough to make a nice profit on most reasonably popular shows. Tiger and Bunny was a huge success on Hulu. You can't tell me that hasn't taken a major chunk out of fan subs. Companies shouldn't even worry about the people who only use fan subs, as they are such a minor group and you won't bring them in anyway. The major problem steaming has right now is A)Lack of great broadband in a lot of more rural parts of the US and other nations and B)Stupid world lockouts that stop people from, say, England or Australia to watch Hulu. I'm still saying piracy is not the problem it's perceived to be. It's not what's "killing" the anime market, or in this case Bandai Entertainment. It's lack of good, quick, availability and the insistence on trying to sell $30 DVDs with only 4 episodes. Give a well priced, super easy way to access your product, and the majority of people will forgo piracy to go for it. Don't even worry about the rest who insist on breaking the law. I'll point everyone to an arstechnica article on the broader subject that crystalizes my view on piracy. I don't think I can put my thoughts better into words than they have. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...bittorrent.ars I'd love to see someone do a similar, more in-depth, data study on anime. Take shows that have always been streamed, like Tiger & Bunny, and compare the streams with the US BitTorrent downloads of that show. Let's see how often One Piece is pirated now that it's streamed day and date vs when it was just released on DVD. Great article idea for someone like ANN. Last edited by yami4ct; 01-10-2012 at 08:33 PM..