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Originally Posted by Suzu

Well, to be fair here, the Kyoryugers DID have some more backstory than for example GekiYellow and GekiBlue. Oh and GekiChopper. That guy sure got the short end of the stick when it comes to character depth :/

While not all of them were so big that they were memorable, Souji, Ian and Nossan felt pretty fleshed out and Ucchi was pretty memorable as far as his story goes (Of course Ian and Souji did have a streak of episodes when their story wasn't as present, especially Ian. But his final confrontation with Aigallon was pretty neat). As for the Guardians/Spirit Rangers, I felt Yayoi and Torin had the most interesting backstory. Admitted, Tessai and Ramirez were rather gimmicky. Especially Ramirez' background would've been interesting to see, but yeah, there's various factors that kept them from doing more with him.

Speaking of Gekiranger, Jan is also pretty much like Daigo as in most characters develop because he is there. It's a tad bit different in execution, but there were quite a handful of episodes where he triggered the other members (and the villains).

This is a bit of a different scenario.
Retsu and Ran didn't have overt story arcs, but they did grow gradually as characters. While I am disappointed that they didn't really get much (Retsu's main story revolved around Gou, which was, you know, Gou's story), you could see clear evolution for the characters. In additional, Rio and Mele had tons of growth and a long lasting and strong story arc that tied them to both Jan and Gou's stories. Ken really got the short stick, not having much story and no real change from introduction to end, I'll admit.

But Gekiranger makes it quite clear that while this is, indeed, Jan's story, it's not all about him. He grew thanks to his team, both in attitude and ability. Note that it was Ran, GekiYellow, who was put in charge of the Gekirangers at the start. Jan was foolhardy and couldn't properly communicate so he couldn't lead a team. His natural ability to use Geki was countered by his poor skills, putting him behind his teammates in terms of strength. He was the main character, but he wasn't Daigo, who was near infallible.
Additionally, Rio played a major part of in the story, and unlike other villains, it's not just as a part of the main character's progression. Rio has legitimate story arcs that advance his own character growth as well as the overarching plot at large.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

But like... He does have flaws, and he does fail.

Remember the episode where Tessai fails him in his training? That's because he doesn't have humility and tries to take everything on himself.

Remember when he went Dino-crazy because of the Carnival upgrade and abandoned the team for the better part of two episodes? That's because he always leaps before he looks. That's a flaw AND a failure.

He's a fool who often falls for easy traps because he doesn't think them through. He's a hothead who rushes into battle half-cocked, relying on his teammates to bail him out.

Like I've said elsewhere, I'm not a huge huge fan of Kyoryuger. I just don't agree with the narrative that Daigo being foregrounded is that show's main problem.

The difference is that they're poor attempts to highlight his "Flaws."
He failed Tessai's test because, as Tessai literally states, that he was too perfect. He didn't fail because he tried to take on too much alone and lost, but because he literally solved all 4 of the other Kyoryuger's challenges at once, faster, without trouble. When he abandoned the team because of Carnival? He still succeeded. Didn't the team come to him complaining that they need to work together (I really can't remember much of this situation)?
Falling for easy traps? He still comes out unscathed with no help from his teammates. They just jokingly scold him for walking into a trap.

The problem with Daigo is that his flaws are the same types of flaws given to a mary sue who is "Too beautiful."
Daigo is a foolhardy idiot who runs in, but there are no consequences. He runs in and wins. They set up plenty of opportunities to showcase Daigo being strong, but needing his team, but they choose not to, rather to show off Daigo's superiority and ability to get results. Choosing to ignore any strategy or technique the team comes up with because he's a walking tank. He can't lose, and he knows it.

Daigo is kind of the poster child for misleading information. Just because the show tells us it's a flaw doesn't make it true if they don't put their money where their mouth is. Perfection isn't a flaw.

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Just watched episode 2. Blue guy (haven't learned their names yet) figures out his strength is his family because Daigo tells him it is. Then Daigo fixes the dinosaur statue.

Episode 3 preview: Daigo tells Green's father to accept him.


I can already see what you guys all mean, and I don't know if I'll be able to handle a whole season of it.

Good luck.