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Fish Sandwich
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I heavily disagree here; Ghost has not "escalated fairly well". It did tackle some more interesting plots for sure, but Onari is still insufferable, Takeru and Makoto are still bland as all hell, Kanon is still a trophy, and they still throw resurrections and power-ups around like nobody’s business.
Ghost did not get better (yet?), at all. It’s the same it has ever been: A mediocre show.
Let me just stop you here: If you describe Onari as one of "the most active and useful supporting cast members we've gotten in a while" then I have no idea what show you’re watching. It’s definitely not the same Ghost I watch. He’s active, that’s for sure, but useful? Hell no.
Takeru had a time where his motives were interesting but he transformed into the bland posterboy hero really fast, and Makoto went from interesting to boring as soon as Kanon returned to life. And while we’re talking Kanon: Horrible damsel in distress trophy character. Completely useless.
Or maybe Ghost just isn’t for me, that could be a thing too. But it has nothing to do with me having high expectations still.
You know, every year I hear complaints about the lead in Rider being "bland" and every year I don't get it. Takeru is only bland in the sense that he's really nice. Sure, he doesn't have any overt flaws, but he has a personality, and the show consistently show him learning lessons and growing as a hero.
As for the supporting cast, not all of them can be as useful as Akari because most of them are normal people, and not super scientists, and they still find things to do anyway. I hear people act like Kanon had nothing to do after coming back to life, but she plays a
huge
role in Alain's character development through their conversations. And in Onari's case, he may not be active all the time, but he's supportive in a very literal and emotional sense. He's extremely dedicated to helping Takeru, even if there's not much he can do, and nonetheless he basically starts a ghost-busting business to find Ganma, which I'd say is pretty dang helpful.
There's more to the plot and characters in a story than the literal events that happen. Little moments and broader themes count for something too, and I find Ghost has those in abundance.
I guess Ghost really isn't for you, because you seem to not fully understand it. I know "You just don't get it" is an excuse that gets thrown around a lot, and I don't mean to disparage your taste, but I don't really know what else to call it here.
It's interesting you describe Kanon as a "damsel in distress trophy" though, given I hear a
lot
of people complain about Mai saying the same thing, both from people who liked and who didn't like Gaim.
Not to mention the tossing around power-ups thing. Pretty much every Rider show since like, 2006 has that problem to some extent. It's just kind of something you have to accept.
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