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Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 44- "Launch! The Terror of Demia!" Discussion
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08-19-2016, 05:29 AM
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Fish Sandwich
The show
is
coming to a closure. The stakes
are
raising. They've
been
raising. This was likely the last VotW plot you're going to have to suffer through. There's at least 4 whole episodes left. That is more time than it might sound like to wrap everything up in a nice little bow.
Yea, the stakes have sure been raising....when our main character has died, like, TWICE NOW ever since he was turned into Ghost(3 counting the Movie), and has still been revived...
Don't get me wrong, I get that Adel is getting stronger & all, and he technically continued Demia before it completely failed, but still....the buildup towards this conclusion was honestly sloppy.
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No I don't. I've been puzzling that for two years now, I'm literally at the 34th episode of a rewatch I've been doing to see if it makes more sense then I remember and I still think Gaim's writing was, at the absolute best, no less sloppy than Ghost's. Feel free to just ignore the rest of my post since I'm obviously crazy, but Gaim is not the gold standard other shows should be held up against.
LOL REALLY?!! You SERIOUSLY don't see the difference in writing of the two shows & which has more quality?! Gaim, which had a continuous plot, a cohesive storyline & a main character who actually goes through some CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?! Compared to Ghost which has ridiculous pacing issues & a main character who is pretty much at this point just another Gary Stu?!
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Kouta and Takeru are actually really similar characters though. They're both kinda doofy generically nice people who grow into more larger than life, heroic characters over the course of the series.
No, they're not quite the same, due to CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, or in Takeru's case, lack thereof.
With Kouta, the writers made it very clear that they were emphasizing Kouta to grow mature. Heck, Urobochi made it a point that his show's theme was kids growing into adulthood. Kouta had to learn about the responsibility of gaining power, and how he must use power in order to break the unfair rules of sacrifice. Meanwhile, Takeru? For the majority of the Series, I've struggled to see one Episode where I can legit say he had character development. Almost every time, it's him helping someone else out with their troubles. Hence why VotW Episodes can get problematic.
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Fish Sandwich
That's exactly what they did!!!
LOL NO THEY DIDN'T!!! Name ONE instance where Takeru himself felt one of the emotions from Mugen. The only possible one that I could say he felt was Joy, since he was all happy that everyone did so much to bring him back. But other than that, it's always him reflecting on others acting on those emotions.
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Fish Sandwich
He's not preaching when he gives those speeches, he's saying what he's learned from his experiences with others. That's what the whole showdown with Adel a couple episodes back was all about. It's what the
whole show
is about. He's had all these crazy adventures and he's
learned
stuff. He's been learning stuff since the earliest episodes. That is exactly what character development is all about. I know it's easy to go "well he's a generic nice guy at the start, and he's a generic nice guy at the end," and say that he's bland but it just isn't the case because there's more to it than that.
....But how does watching all these emotions being displayed by others benefit him as a character?! And I say WATCHING because there's no way he's "learning" about these...it's not like he was unaware of these emotions himself, now is he? -__-
WHAT has Takeru learned?! What shows in his character that he's different & changed from who he was at the start? He hasn't gone through anything that has challenged his ideals & made him have to question himself. I mean, I know Kamen Rider has a bad habit of not developing their main character much but THIS.....
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Fish Sandwich
I swear, it's literally every year with the "main character is bland" crap. I hope for your sakes Ex-Aid turns out to be the most three-dimensional character ever put to television, because sometimes I swear you people won't be satisfied with anything less.
I hope so too, cuz I'm tired of Kamen Rider giving us near-bland main protagonists. Know what I'd REALLY like? I know I'm gonna get flack for this, but I think we need another Tsukasa type person for our main protagonist. We have way too many goodie-two-shoe leads, a rebellious & cocky(but not an idiot) main character would be a nice change of pace.
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