[Phaseborg]

I have to agree. After all this time, when it comes to knowing when to stop pressing, and knowing when a situation might go from bad to worse based on your actions- it doesn't seem like Goku or Vegeta have learned that yet.

They're so obsessed with being trained by higher and higher beings that they don't seem to care if anything else gets remotely effected in the process- it IS selfish- and they always blame it on their "Saiyan ways," and it's like: No...you guys are just pricks...it doesn't get any simpler than that. If you're not training, you're destroying stuff, if you're not destroying stuff you're eating up a storm, and if you're not eating up a storm you're running away from your families- how is none of that selfish? lol