[Librarian]

Good episode. Glad to see they're finally explaining the obvious to areas of the audience that needs it. Though they've been having to repeat info they've already said quite a lot. Lots of the details in this were already said repeatedly before. xD

One detail that stands out though, we now partially know what created Oma Zi-O. Some form of betrayal is what set him on his course. Which again is pointing at Geiz, Woz, or Tsukuyomi. More maybe on Geiz still. Woz may hide details or only tell half-truths, but directly offending his overlord wouldn't bode well for him long term. So I don't think he's the Judas. Tsukuyomi I think is more impacted by it to potentially become an excess captive or otherwise stuck between them. Based on how Woz talked to her, there's more about her we're going to learn about too. That seems to foreshadow some form of future presence for her.

So that leaves Geiz as the likely Judas. And we do know he and Woz have history, which also likely means Tsukuyomi and Woz have history too. Though I think, as we really should already know anyway, Woz knows more about them and their futures than he lets on. And he seems really kind of leaning on toying with Geiz like he knows something about Geiz's future that's irony loaded. Like maybe Geiz directly is the cause of the future Geiz is trying to avert.

Really liked seeing them play up more of the Ciel and Sebastian angle this week too. Making that much clearer to the audience as well.

Something else to keep in mind, the another riders come into existence for when the rider of a series takes place, though the ride watch shows the year it aired. Some series weren't taking place at the same time they aired. We'll likely see more of this when it gets to Kiva.

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Originally Posted by IndigoArms

When Hayase calls his past self, he could've at least told him some lottery numbers

Anyway, at least we get a sense of an explanation with the whole Another Riders/ Regular Riders dynamic.
So from what I understand is that...
1. When Another Rider is made, the original rider's powers and memories disappear.
2. When they defeat An Another Rider, but not the proper way, it restores their powers and memories temporally.
3. When they defeat them in the right timeline and powers, it restores the timeline to what it once was.

Well it least that would explain why the other riders are appearing in Heisei Generations Forever. But then why was Sento "Katsuragi" again, unless it happened when he was temporarily in his Katsuragi phase or he's a special case they are saving for the movie.

Sento was only temp restored by the defeat of the another rider in the present day. He reverted back to no memories once the Monster came back again. So it was like a light switch being flicked on and off repeatedly because Geiz kept defeating it and it kept coming back.

Same is what happened with Ex-Aid, he got his memories and powers back when the monster reverted to human, then back to no powers with limited memories when the monster came back.

Same as we saw with Beast in this. Memories came back when the another rider was defeated, and then faded when the another rider came back, but also faded once the ride armor came into existence too.

Like explained before. The Another Rider replaces the rider in history, and then when defeated by a Ride Armor of it's same, the Ride Armor becomes the replacement in the timeline.

The Ride Watch also stores the memories and rider power, but Woz didn't explain that part. It's been said previously though as well as visually shown with how the ride armors act before being worn. This episode was filling those gaps for those that aren't catching the details. So Sento getting his memories and powers back again will likely come up in the movie itself. Because we do know there will have to be a way to restore them. And there is likely a ride watch method to temp restore them or 'release the power' for a set time in case their guidance and memories are needed for a problem. So it'd make sense that the ride watch would store them as a controllable database in that way. A manner of calling on them to answer questions, and then reverting them back to not having the power or memories to keep them from using it to fight back.

But Sento doesn't have his memories back yet. They faded again. So likely whatever allows him to have them in the movie is going to be something shown in the movie, which will likely carry over to the series too. We haven't seen what the second ride watch button push does in series yet. But we do know the toys have an added SFX for double pushing the button.

And only certain things fade with the another rider/ride watch. Some personality details stay. Like Sento is still a genius scientist even without being Build. We've seen directly now that the full side riders are impacted when a lead rider becomes an another rider, that they lose their powers and memories too. Same as Dan is still Dan even without rider powers. Though that should have been obvious already from Cross-z losing his powers and memories when Another Build came into existence.

So it is impossible for a rider to defeat their own another rider, except for maybe Kabuto due to Clock Up. Once an Another Rider exists, the previous rider no longer does. Unless the Another Rider is defeated or temp defeated to human.

Not sure what this means for Den-O though since the Imagins are used to this on humans losing memories. But even if they don't disappear, the belt would cease working anyway and the den-liner would lose power or disappear. Though I do still like the idea of "Dorothy's house" on a monster. It's so "well crap, that backfired." But likely the Imagins disappear too since they do 'power' the belt for den-o.

And the Watch holder may have more to it than we realize yet. But that may have to wait until it's full to see, or is attached to the time machine itself. They seem to be drawing a lot on doctor who, so the ride watch holder does seem to allude to something similar to "The big bang" episodes. Like how the ride watches themselves seemingly allude to the Martha Pocket Watch episode. There was a seemingly obvious music cue in the first episode to reference that's intentional as well.