[Aoi Kurenai]

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Originally Posted by Librarian

I say it's fine because I'm more aware of the finances, and markets than most. As well as other factors that keep them all afloat.

BoJ only has that in Japan. Worldwide markets are a different factor. As we're literally seeing with how Hasbro has PR control in other markets now, and how the brand itself broadened out for a bit in the states with imaginext and Mega Construx. Toei revenues come from wider sources than you're realizing or mentioning as it pertains to sentai.

These aren't factors being ignored, but 'internet people' that scream "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!" really are silly. BoJ is far more accommodating than you're really giving them credit for, and you're really not looking at bigger pictures either, or wider market. As well as how more involved the revenue draws Sentai creates for both Toei and BoJ are.

So yeah, "struggling" is a far reach. They are fine. Bottom lines aren't anywhere as impacted as much as you think they are. Though part of that in the Japanese market has to do with low birth rates too, and other factors. But the global marketing has actually increased revenue amounts more than you realize. Like how the market has grown with South Korea and other areas. Which is sales data you're not seeing in those assessments. Same as you're not seeing other side market data like game sales and more.

If the bottom line actively was getting impacted, I'd be the first to mention that as a concern. But that's actively not as much of a concern as people seem to think, especially as ratings have been increasing in the audience reach, besides wider licensing opportunities and wider markets.

That sales data you're seeing is only one fraction of the larger pie. And even then, you're still not seeing all the numbers or other factors too. So yeah, everything is fine. Revenues are coming in from more than only toy sales in Japan(and even that is data that's got other factors involved too you won't see in it per the market itself and how that data is gathered).

The revenue flows sentai gets are sustaining it fine. No one is going to cut BoJ out of it. There's no need to "buy bandai out of it" or anything like that. That's even sillier talk.

If the sky was falling, or BoJ was actively pissed and threatening to end it, or anything like that, then why would they do such a blatant "welcome to the family" type of throwback show for Hasbro with so many Hasbro inspired influences?

BoJ and Toei are much more open and co-operative than people really seem to want to give them credit for. As well as have much more open views to how to gain market share than they get credit for as well. They aren't some spiteful jealous corporate entity like how many fans seem to want to think they are. They are forward thinkers and are always a step ahead and very welcoming.

So nah, I'm not actively worried about "sentai struggling". That's laughable. Outright so. Something only the gullible would believe. Those accounts haven't even been dented tbh. So it's more laughable than even I'm saying.

BoJ and Toei have a lot of "false images" that fans have made up about them that it's quite sad on how misunderstood they are and the lack of intelligence out there. More and more proof literally is rubbed in the English speaking's fanbase's face about that, even to the point of outright mocking them for how much they think they know, and it keeps going right over their head every time. Even I'm facepalming over it now, pretty sure BoJ and Toei are too.

Bandai Namco will most likely not be releasing Power Rangers related income on the investor relations financial update shows and quarterly performance charts next year. There's going to be a licensing fee, but they won't see 100% of the gross as it's no longer being licensed to a subsidiary. This is going to look like a massive loss of revenue after four years (probably five by the end of LuPat) of failing to meet projections by wide margins. (https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/cgi-bi...?entry_id=6242 / https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/cgi-bi...?entry_id=5729 / https://www.bandainamco.co.jp/cgi-bi...?entry_id=5728 ) I'm quite aware of the bigger picture.

I think it's become very easy for people on either side of the argument to bend over backwards to discredit or disprove whatever side it is they don't agree with. You keep saying it's increased that revenue has increased, but where is your evidence? I can point you to numerous charts on Bandai Namco's own site that point to the contrary, at least specifically in regards to the Super Sentai brand. Again, I'm well aware of the "bigger picture", those Bandai Asia and BoA sales have up to now been included in the group-wide totals on the investor relation sheets the company releases. The group-wide totals sometimes do better year on year but ever since ToQger, the Toys and Hobby business numbers have missed their targets, in some cases being overtaken by brands that hadn't really been selling well in over a decade.

Also, where are you getting that ratings are increasing? The only show to have increased ratings in recent years is Ninninger, which increase the a whopping .07% after ToQger. They dropped harder with Kyuranger and now there's another smaller drop going on with LuPat. (https://mevius.5ch.net/test/read.cgi...542280000//290 / https://www10.atwiki.jp/shichouseiko/pages/15.html ) Yes, there's a new time slot, but Kamen Rider's numbers have actually been improving somewhat at the start of Zi-O in that new slot, which is not the case with Sentai these days.

I'm not implying anyone is going to buy Bandai out of anything, read my post again, I answered another poster and informed them of what would need to happen for Takra Tomy to take over the toy side of the brand, which won't happen.

Ryuusouger reeks of desperation. Everything from dinosaurs to Ranger Key-like collectibles screams of trying to harp on the successes of the past, there's no creativity, there's no forward thinking, it's Bandai Namco attempting sustainability. One could even make the argument that this a play to go beyond Japan because of how successful Kyoryuger was as Dino Force in Japan. It was the most successful of the "Power Rangers" Sentai lines over there and justified the production of a new show, however short it was, in the form of Dino Force Brave. Doing a show in the same mold would allow for another potentially massive market. They're trying to cover all their bases, leave no stone unturned.

Bandai Namco and Toei aren't straight up cold to each other, but the creative heads on the shows have very little input in the initial output of designs and themes. Kamen Rider Gaim's writer was brought on when the show was already designed, its producer had one idea for themes but was superseded. TV Asahi is also taking greater control in all of Toei's tokusatsu shows in recent years. Their producer has been listed as Chief Producer since the third cour of Kamen Rider Ghost, when in the past there was very little distinction made between Toei and TV Asahi's producers.

I think it's very crude to simply dismiss these ideas as gullible when it's clear you yourself have various simple facts wrong. Sentai has been failed to meet sales projections for half a decade and is currently in its worse performing year since numbers have been made public. When there are increases in profit, its either minuscule (Zyuohger) or decent but not something Sentai is able to hold onto. The loss of profit with LuPat indicates some serious brand rot is going on, it means people aren't really sticking around for Sentai, but for whatever the theme is. And, I get it, that's sort of the genius of Sentai, it can constantly reinvent itself, but faltering happens when they have to tear down the structure of the toy line so much in such a short span of time.

I don't know what "proof" is being rubbed in English speaking people's faces, but I'm quite able to read and communicate in Japanese and this topic is one that comes up frequently, so, again, what's the proof? This is clearly an issue that even tokusatsu fans in Japan are concerned about, it's not limited to us poor westerners.

So, again, looking at it on paper, with the facts that Bandai Namco provides to their own investors: Sentai has failed to meet sales projections in the last five years, six with LuPat. Their 40+ year old toy brand is having its worst year ever and has been faltering for the better part of a decade, something is amiss.

(also, seriously, what's up with the high horse, judgmental attitude? what even makes you think that's called for? you can at least be civil.)

But yeah, unless you can provide solid evidence to the contrary to back up your argument, I'm peacing out of this conversation, it's gonna get real circular, real snide, real fast. Saying "nope! it's not true because I know it's not!" is not how discourse works.