[acdcguy]

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Originally Posted by Genocyber

I felt like Joker was overrated. Good, but not great.

Yeah it wasn't even really original either. Just take Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, and elements of The Dark Knight Returns, and The Killing Joke sprinkled in. And some obvious subversion and you have Joker. I thought it was a well made film, and an interesting reflection on society and the state of Hollywood comic book films. It just wasn't all that original nor that ground breaking other than the records it is breaking at the box office.

I felt Phoenix perfectly encapsulated the state of what a pre-Joker identified person would behave, but his transition was not seamless. I'd argue it didn't even happen. Once he became "Joker" he was just Fleck in a different clown costume. He has the potential to become the Joker we know, but by the end of the film he just wasn't. Still better than Jared Leto though.