[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I'm just going to say this upfront: I honestly don't consider it that unreasonable that a milksop pushover and an emotionally battered victim of abuse aren't in a rush to swap digits with each other.

Like, I'm not sure how invested I am in defending this plot point, but I can at least see where the show is coming from.

Fair enough. I'm not all beat up about it, but it's a bit of a contrivance for me.

As a counterpoint, though, these two managed to get an online relationship going, so they must be okay putting themselves out there to some degree.

And, man, I don't know that I'd call Keitaro a milksop pushover in general, and he specifically doesn't come off that way in a dating context. He's a romantic! He went on one date with a girl who seems emotionally hollowed out and he's convinced he's in love with her! Dude only feels capital letter Feelings!

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Something I wanna say actually while this topic is brought up? As someone who doesn't like Faiz, I've never really agreed with the "if only these people would just talk normally and stop having so many ~misunderstandings~" argument against it.

Because for me, that's just a basis of drama. I think it's fine that these people don't communicate well with each other because that can be interesting, and there's a lot of realism in there since none of these people have ever even met each other before.

Sure! Like I said originally, Complicated Romance is a pretty standard story to tell when it comes to the superhero genre, so any objections are more of the Minor Quibble variety. I really liked the Keitaro/Yuka story!

Like, if there's anywhere in drama/melodrama where you want a decent amount of obfuscation and confusion to keep things humming, it's a star-crossed lovers storyline. It is dramatically appropriate for them to still not know each other's identities!