[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

OK, I'm sorry for a take like this that you have to do this (and sorry for the next I want to say here too). I was probably a bit irrational right there, just speaking out of my mind of something that reminds me right there. And even if anything, here you say don't compare kid's misbehavior with adult problems here, but actually, those adults I refer with the problems I mentioned before? Those are the ones that will be refered as immature, because they respond in the same way as a kid's misbehavior.

Don't be sorry! You're entitled to your opinion! I just wanted to give some space to the notion that a kid character is maybe allowed to be awful in a way that's a lot more situational or temporary than an adult character. It's totally fine if Keiko still bugs you. She's not easy to like!

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Well, not all hard workers are money oriented or a guaranteed success (depending on what busniess they do!). So being a hardworker doesn't really indicate how well you are as a businessman. Even then, being a hardworker at least indicates it's like, going through "brute force" way compared to "skill and finesse" way at work. Plus they sometimes say, work smart, not hard. Eh then again that phrase is used for those primarily money-oriented because that's what success is viewed primarily... ok enough rambling, back to Faiz, Keitaro explicitly stated he only wanted to help people, not be rich from the job, so it's not like he's a poor businessman just that he's not money oriented (which obviously, have Takumi and Mari think so for that)?

As a business owner, let me assure you that being a hard worker is not the surest path to financial success.

The point that I think Mari and Takumi were trying to make, though, is that he's a hard worker that is not going to have a business to work hard at, unless he figures out a way to make more money. It's well and good to have a high-minded mission statement, but unless Keitaro's running a nonprofit dry-cleaners/therapy office (which, it's possible!), he's going to be out of a job and homeless pretty goddamn soon.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Then yeah, sooner or later of course, Keitaro will get to know Kaido better, the person who he previously deemed as unworthy of being a Faiz compared to Takumi. But how would he feel against him now? That he becomes one of the few person that Kaido gets along seemingly without any rudeness. The boys are just more open and direct compared to the girls... they just right at the bat mentioned the name of the person they fell in love with.

I didn't really talk about this before, but I'm a big fan of Keitaro no longer holding a grudge against Kaido. I think another show, a worse show, would have them be rivals, antagonists. But here, there's no real animosity. They so quickly fell into a friendship, so excited about finding another hopeless romantic to hang out with.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

T̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ ̶e̶x̶i̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶e̶p̶a̶r̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶w̶.̶.̶.̶?̶ ̶T̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶K̶a̶m̶e̶n̶ ̶R̶i̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶k̶u̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶u̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶!̶ OK, with this being "the top of the mountain in entertainment" and "perfectly suited to my tastes", can you give a concrete definition of it here? It's currently harder to figure it simply by reading your gushes. Also I wonder about the line and toleration between "natural" (the girls) and "wacky" (the boys, and pretty much everything else) respectively that you love both here (and both traits are total opposites).

I did! Just a little bit ago!

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I realized, thinking more about it later, why this type of comedy landed for me. There's a thing I think a lot of people do, when they're watching a show, where they think Wouldn't It Be Hilarious If X Happened Next. And you know the show isn't going to do X next, because it's stupid and funny but it could break the reality of the show. But then the producers do it anyway, and they do it in a way that the reality of the show supports. Moreover, the reality of the show enhances the joke, leveling it up into something hilarious and poignant. That shit, where a show can validate an absurd premise, rendering it both funny and insightful... I'm not sure there's anything in storytelling that I like better.

Hope that clears it up!

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

To have the belt so easily pulled away from them (this fight! one of those that actually targets the very thing that made the Rider strong in the first place!). And for Yuji wondering about who's Faiz, he probably didn't have the thought of Takumi being Faiz right? I haven't seen his reaction to the revelation yet here, though probably will be done next episode. To see his suspicions just turned right that Faiz belt was in the hand of someone immoral.

Yeah, boy, Houjou's clearly the smart one! Instead of some long battle, he's all Yoink and that's it. It's a good strategy!

I never got the feeling Yuuji suspected Takumi was Faiz. Yuuji sees Faiz as a Smart Brain enforcer, so Faiz being some young guy who works at a dry cleaners (and is a total failure of a human being, per Mari's cover story) wouldn't make his list of suspects. So, yeah, it being Houjou is exactly who he'd think Faiz would be.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

So, I don't really have much to contribute to the discussion at the moment (it's hard to play contrarian when I agree with so much of what Die keeps saying, plus this was a stretch of the show I don't remember the subs having any real problems), but I do just wanna say I, I don't know, I just really like how positive the vibe this thread has going is?

I mean, Die, you've said a lot of nice things about my Kuuga thread, but I don't think you realize how much of a service you're doing to all the destitute Faiz fans out there right now. I didn't realize how much my life needed someone else gushing about how fun this wacky bunch of weirdos (and Yuuji) is until I had it.

Aw, thanks! I'm happy to help!

I just like watching Kamen Rider, you know? All types. It's awesome to be able to talk about these shows with people who like them, too!