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DreadBringer
How about the difference of what's accepted and reviled character's flaws I talk about?
I don't know that I completely caught that? Sorry!
In general, folks are going to want different things out of stories they follow. A trait that I hate might be one they love, and vice versa. Like, I think Takumi's early standoffishness is both funny
and
worth exploring, but for other people it might be a reason to quit watching. It's art It's all very subjective!
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DreadBringer
And for humors (not only Inoue), I don't know if humor should be those assholes shamelessly putting others down? That jerk behaviour is considered funny so long as it's happening to someone else (and partly because you aren't affected; not putting themselves in their shoes); comedic sociopathy.
Yeah, I think that's a fair line to draw? It's not a version of humor I've really seen on Kamen Rider, to my knowledge. Most humor is of the gentle-ribbing type (think Sento and Banjou in Build), but sometimes a show will push it farther. You might get a villain whose cruelty is so unreal that it becomes ludicrous, but that's maybe not intentional so much as it's a failing in storytelling. I don't think Kamen Rider is a franchise that wants to tell stories where truly bad people make fun of truly good people?
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This movie, actually shows,
if the bad guys actually win at the end
. The reason why majority of species are all Orphnochs now. There are thousands of humans left, they're on verge of extinction. The reason why this wasn't in main series is obviosly, The Good Guys Always Win, while in this movie, The Bad Guy Wins, Smart Brain is nowhere near as successful in this movie.
What I really liked it about was the specific way the villains won. We've seen (or will see, rather) movies where Shocker takes over the world, and it's a misery for everyone. It's fascism as its own reward; a boot stepping on a human face, forever.
In this one, it's more a loss of cultural primacy, a loss of wielding control over society. Things seem pretty great for the average Orphnoch? They don't seem to want more than to enjoy each other's company, maybe have an iced coffee in the afternoon. There's a...
banality
to it that I thought was very unique.
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DreadBringer
Though what makes it not Yuji's decision here? Both times Smart Brain had a hand in his turn, where in the series, Hanagata assigned him as a leader of Smart Brain, and here, Smart Lady tricked him. Turning evil is always a decision?
It's that in the series, his decision was grounded in reality, where in the movie, his decision was grounded in a lie.
In the show, the humans betrayed Yuuji and murdered Yuka. That shit happened, and Yuuji dealt with it badly. He bears some blame for what happened next. In the movie, it's all a misunderstanding, so it doesn't feel like Yuuji's at fault. He's a victim, and that makes his actions feel less impactful.
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Other than that, yeah Orga
(O"R"GA!)
is my favorite suit for Faiz, though I'm not a fan of the circle in the head, I do know that it means to accompany the emperor feel of him (The emperor feel is the reason it's my favorite).
Take it up with TV-Nihon! I'm just a guy watching a TV show!
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