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acdcguy · 10-01-2020, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

I have a feeling that one day the MCU might be nigh-unwatchable.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely among the best of superhero culture recently, but Phase 1 took like 10 years. Unless they allow Phase 2 to be watchable without needing to watch Phase 1, which could happen but with all the references to previous films I'm just not so sure how newcomers in the future will be able to handle it.

I'd argue it's already unwatchable. It's already 20+ movies in with only a handful of solidly decent films. None of them are anything close to a Citizens Kane level of quality. Which I don't expect them to be but they could at least try once in awhile. Plus they couldn't stay away from propaganda, with Captain Marvel being perhaps the worst film in the franchise with an incredibly unlikable and highly politicized protagonist. But it goes deeper than that. The Thor films has Idris Elba playing the Norse God Heimdall, a fair skinned divine being of Asgard said in the Poetic Edda to have literally fathered the Nordic race and the direct link of ethnic Asatruar practitioners and Western Europeans as a whole to Odin the All-Father. Obviously intentional and clearly offensive (think about the outrage if an African deity was played by an Asian or European actor). I cannot watch Thor films anymore for that reason, even Ragnarok, which I did enjoy. I do not appreciate my heritage being diminished to half assed entertainment and subverted to have non-Nordic people play Norse Gods. I wasn't a fan of the comics doing it and I definitely am not a fan of the films doing it as well. Which I got to admire a film like Black Panther but at the same time be a bit envious of it too as Marvel can put all the time an attention to a fictitious African tale (as in not a legitimate African folk tale but loosely based on African folk tales) in having a nearly complete black cast, but they cannot afford the same respect to Nordic folk stories by having only Nordic actors play Norse Gods. Don't even get me started on Valkyrie. I hate these kinds of double standards and the hard push of certain topics for a desperate attempt to be "with it" in the current cultural climate.

10-01-2020, 10:03 PM	#1990
acdcguy Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: USA Posts: 955	Quote: Originally Posted by gashatfreak I have a feeling that one day the MCU might be nigh-unwatchable. Don't get me wrong, it's definitely among the best of superhero culture recently, but Phase 1 took like 10 years. Unless they allow Phase 2 to be watchable without needing to watch Phase 1, which could happen but with all the references to previous films I'm just not so sure how newcomers in the future will be able to handle it. I'd argue it's already unwatchable. It's already 20+ movies in with only a handful of solidly decent films. None of them are anything close to a Citizens Kane level of quality. Which I don't expect them to be but they could at least try once in awhile. Plus they couldn't stay away from propaganda, with Captain Marvel being perhaps the worst film in the franchise with an incredibly unlikable and highly politicized protagonist. But it goes deeper than that. The Thor films has Idris Elba playing the Norse God Heimdall, a fair skinned divine being of Asgard said in the Poetic Edda to have literally fathered the Nordic race and the direct link of ethnic Asatruar practitioners and Western Europeans as a whole to Odin the All-Father. Obviously intentional and clearly offensive (think about the outrage if an African deity was played by an Asian or European actor). I cannot watch Thor films anymore for that reason, even Ragnarok, which I did enjoy. I do not appreciate my heritage being diminished to half assed entertainment and subverted to have non-Nordic people play Norse Gods. I wasn't a fan of the comics doing it and I definitely am not a fan of the films doing it as well. Which I got to admire a film like Black Panther but at the same time be a bit envious of it too as Marvel can put all the time an attention to a fictitious African tale (as in not a legitimate African folk tale but loosely based on African folk tales) in having a nearly complete black cast, but they cannot afford the same respect to Nordic folk stories by having only Nordic actors play Norse Gods. Don't even get me started on Valkyrie. I hate these kinds of double standards and the hard push of certain topics for a desperate attempt to be "with it" in the current cultural climate. Last edited by acdcguy; 10-01-2020 at 10:05 PM..