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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kabuto
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01-26-2021, 12:24 PM
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DreadBringer
Why is this one isn't a great part here? I feel like this part is just similar to the end of ep. 43 where Hiyori declares to Tendou and Kagami that she chooses to live with Souji Kusakabe in the other dimension, and isolated from humans as Worm's enemies, but here it's done in a good, proper way, which is rejecting the evil copy of Kabuto and chooses Tendou and the normal world, regaining her humanity.
I mean, the end part is good! It's the lead-up to that end that I wasn't thrilled with. It's an episode that depends on two of the people who know Hiyori best forgetting that she pushes people away. All the stuff you're talking about is the end part, which I liked!
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DreadBringer
Sorry but the truth is, Kagami's "strategy" is no strategy, just him being a punching bag for Cassis Worm, and this is not something you should implement for "no chance of failure".
Getting the crap kicked out of him while Kabuto does something clever is
literally
what Gatack is best at! It's what he brings to the team!
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DreadBringer
But I had to tell you though, "looking cool in front of his underlings" isn't a heroism service. The point that is addressed by another series is that, worshiping violence is not a heroic trait (if looking cool refers to him being powerful enough to fight off monsters). Fighting for justice isn't done because fighting monsters is "cool", but to protect others. The heroism service here is Yaguruma following Kageyama's suit for once by fighting Cassis Worm too as KickHopper, not about "looking cool in front of his underlings".
I agree that Yaguruma trying to look cool in front of his underlings isn't heroic. I don't think it's intended to be, and I don't think I ever said it was? It's selfish and petty, but, like,
so is Yaguruma
. I'd disagree that him entering the fight is due to some higher morality, though. His beef was more of a payback thing?
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DreadBringer
So refering him to "Another Tendou" is just plain wrong.
Okay! Sometimes there are jokes!
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Sh Ranger
Okay, maybe I didn't explain that as effectively as I could have. It does sound pretty terrible to read. When I said they need to die, what I meant is that they need to go extinct. Without the King, that's already inevitable so there's no reason for Takumi and Kaido to kill themselves, although Takumi wouldn't have had much time left due to Kiba accelerating his decay.
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
I feel like a lot of that, the extinction stuff... I think you can read it as just Orphnochs living a human life going forward. No eternal life, none of the things that put them above humanity. Just a bunch of mortal creatures trying to find happiness.
It's something Inoue tries and fails to bring up in this episode, where Misaki wonders what the difference even is between Worms and humanity. Tadokoro basically says he doesn't know, and that grey area is where Inoue usually operates with his sympathetic monsters. I'm not sure I'm onboard with a read where Tsurugi deserved to die? He was capable of heroism, of sacrifice, of humor, of grace, of friendship, of love. He wasn't some irredeemable monster who was only a shadow of memory. He didn't deserve to die.
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