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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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03-12-2021, 11:56 AM
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Androzani84
So I thought I?€™d start with a brief discussion of Deneb. He?€™s based off a Tengu (a Japanese creature who?€™s name translates to ?€œheavenly dog?€?, despite often being depicted as a humanoid crow) and he?€™s named after a star that I assume is part of a trinity with Altair and Vega (mostly because of how much I see the three used together in fiction).
And no, for the requisite VAs list.
Hōchu Ōtsuka (stage name for Yoshitada Ōtsuka)
Notable Anime roles: Jiraiya in Naruto, Yazan Gable in Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Alfred in Batman Ninja
Notable Tokusatsu roles: Signalman in Gekisou Sentai Carranger and Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, Callas in Kamen Rider Battride War, the Narrator in Kamen Rider Gaim, Maja in Kamen Rider Gaim Final Stage.
Notable Dubbing roles: Ultra Magnus in The Transformers, Dr. Ian Malcolm in the Jurassic Park series, Grandmaster in Thor: Ragnarok, Data in the Star Trek franchise, Doggett in The X-Files, Eliot Ness in The Untouchables, Jim Gordon in Batman Begins, Hades in Clash of the Titans, Joke in The Dark Knight, Piccolo in Dragonball Evolution, General Xaviax in Kamen Rider Dragon Knight, James Bond in License to Kill, Morgan Spurlock in Super Size Me, Leonardo in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles films, Steven in Arthur Christmas, Warp Darkmatter in Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, Carlos and Phil in Hop, Kent Mansley in The Iron Giant, Dick Dastardly in Scoob, Alpha in Up.
And for our bad guy of the week
Ryūsei Nakao
Notable Anime roles: Mayuri Kurotsuchi in Bleach, Frieza in Dragon Ball Z, Caesar Clown in One Piece, Noise in Suite Pretty Cure, King in Garo: Vanishing Line.
Notable Tokusatsu roles: Gou Koyuki in Denshi Sentai Denziman (live role), Rain Alien Agent Abrella in Tokusou Sentai Dekaranger, Masakage Tsugomori in Shuriken Sentai Ninninger, Alien Nackle in Ultraman Mebius and the Ultraman Brothers.
Notable dubbing roles: Speckles in G-Force, Solomon Lane in the Mission Impossible series, Tramp in the
Andy and the Tramp series, Ling in Mulan, Snowball in The Secret Life of Pets, Ziro the Hutt in Star Wars: The Clone Wars,
Neat! Thanks! What did you think of the episode?
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Switchblade
The core difference between Yuuto and Kiriya (aside from the fact that Yuuto is on a real show and Kiriya is from the purely fictitious post-cancellation ?€œepisodes?€? of Hibiki) is in the motivations behind their behavior. Kiriya (pretending he exists, for the sake of argument) was a selfish dick who was motivated primarily by his own entitlement. Yuuto, on the other hand, is a nice and caring person; we see that in the glimpses of his future self. He acts like a dick, though, because of his situation and how he chooses to handle it.
Yuuto is a teenager - I?€™m not sure how old exactly he?€™s supposed to be, but he?€™s probably about the same age as Ryotaro. He?€™s been caught up in the events of the show for reasons we?€™ll find out later, though, so he?€™s doing what a lot of teenagers would do in this kind of situation: trying to act like he?€™s super cool and in complete control of what?€™s happening. He?€™s a jerk to Ryotaro because he wants Ryotaro to think that he?€™s this awesome badass who totally knows what?€™s going on and who?€™s way cooler than that Den-O loser. But, as we see with him buying the vest and getting coffee, he?€™s absolutely still just an immature teenager.
One of the many, many great things about Deneb is that he not only completely ignores all of Yuuto?€™s bluster, but simultaneously calls him out on it while apologizing for it. I hadn?€™t made the Jiiya/Tsurugi connection before (probably because, like I?€™ve said before, Kabuto did not stick in my long term memory), but it?€™s very much that kind of dynamic. The core difference is that Deneb tries to compensate for Yuuto?€™s worst impulses instead of enabling them.
Sure! But at this point, after one episode, the
approach
of Yuuto is very much the approach of first-episode Kiriya. You said "He's a jerk to Ryotaro because he wants Ryotaro to think that he's this awesome badass who totally knows what's going on and who's way cooler than that Den-O loser," and that's almost
entirely
Kiriya's first storyline! They're both characters who are scared of looking vulnerable in front of people they want to befriend, so they go
hilariously
far into the opposite direction by looking like a contemptuous villain.
Like, I'm
sure
there'll be a ton of differences down the line. We're talking about a character designed by Inoue versus a character designed by Kobayashi. If I asked those two writers to pour me a bowl of cereal, I'd probably be handed a crepe with Froot Loops inside and some addictively sweet Froot Loop-flavored milk. They work different ways, and these shows are trying to do different things. But the introduction, the
exterior
of Yuuto and Kiriya,
that
part is very similar.
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