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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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03-19-2021, 12:55 PM
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And that's a choice a show can make, but it's a choice that keeps it from being excellent. Doing a story where the only person who goes on a journey is the guest star, that's fun at the expense of insight. I'm invested in this show (ostensibly) because of the journey Ryotaro goes on. If it's a story where he doesn't change, or I don't learn anything new about him, it's a story that's... I was going to say "almost not worth telling", but it's more that it's just inessential. It's a silver medal story. Pretty good, but still short of greatness.
Still subjective about the statement where the choice not making it excellent. I'm just also pointing out about how people talk about realistic, but ironically strays far from it. Also there's probably a story where people would like if there are equal focus on many of the cast members like the main (and I kinda appreciate if they're able to pull it off).
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 25 - “DOUBLE CLIMAX JUMP”
The fact that it
starts
with a disoriented Ryotaro is perfect, because the majority of this episode is perplexing and contextless. There’s a decent enough throughline for the Spider Imagin, where a guy wants his hospitalized little sister to see the stars and it all goes wrong (he made the wish in a nightmare!), but nearly every linking scene feels like the exposition has been edited out. Multiple Yuutos and Denebs appear, Momo and Kin are acting
incredibly
weird, and most dialogue could be replaced with This Will All Make Sense Later. It’s an episode that’s the setup for a joke, with the punchline still to come.
Never expected you to be excited about a time travel-y premise here, where multiple Yuutos and Denebs would be very time travel to gather them from various timelines into 1 place. Time travel stories, if done not carefully, it can produce several plot holes and some questions, like before where you wouldn't talk much about it in place of the character journey like the victim's states and lessons, not to mention the worldbuilding by Kobayashi with show not tell.
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The first team-up, and the best one, is between Ryotaro and Yuuto.
Ryotaro not being great? He's developing, like y'know in the ep. 15-16 2 parter Ryotaro singlehandedly solves the Imagin mystery there, albeit centered for IOTW one rather than something more major here. Also, I was laughing my ass off and I was looking forward upon Yuuto's agitation when Deneb possesses him and using him to act friendly to anyone around him like when he promotes Milk Dipper to others. Also man, don't you blame Ryotaro as thinking why Yuuto doesn't want Ryotaro as a friend, Ryotaro gets time-abducted by another Deneb and it wasn't his fault. And well, misunderstanding will ensue here.
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The second team-up’s a little one, but I like Naomi and Hana taking care of Milk Dipper for a minute. It’s mostly there for an Ozaki thing, but I just like the concept. In my head, any scene of the two of them off of DenLiner is just Hana Teams With Legend Civilian Mana. But, like, Mana got weirdly into vinyl clothing in the last five years or something. Had a real fun time at uni, maybe.
Also never expected this, but you taking an interest for people taking a part in helping out at a restaurant (Rider "headquarters"), even if they're a major cast member. These things iirc was usually treated as an aftertought before, or at worst, disdain, especially for Milk Dipper being a place that gets snark here due to it being seemingly pointless meeting place as DenLiner's there and it being centered regarding... Airimirers.
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The third team-up is an Airimirers thing, and I’m skipping that.
Airi agrees to bring Ozaki to the hospital after he's injured (and even minor one), that kinda left an impression to me about her, probably due to how she would go that far for being helpful, and also like you said, the Airimirers are simping in disgusting ways, but Airi is being considerate to males like that.
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One of the greatest character moments in all of Den-O is probably Deneb cursing himself for not making his candy
delicious enough
to get Hana to believe in Yuuto. The purity of Deneb is both adorable and pathetic in equal measures, a recipe that nourishes my soul. The fact that Momo got a Seihou before Deneb is galling, and easily one of the 800 dumbest things Bandai has done in the last two years.
Yeah, this is a purity for Deneb's part where he would just blame himself if he's not able to please others, and being exaggerated too here for just a simple candy. But dunno about which part that you refer as being pathetic, I hope that it would be the exaggeration, I don't want the part of putting others above yourself (Deneb blaming himself) to be seen as pathetic, and glorify about the opposite of being toxic and selfish as not caring about anyone else except yourself (because of it being strong, assertive, dominant, interesting, etc.).
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