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06-14-2021, 02:02 AM
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dreamcastegirl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
gashatfreak
I wonder if perhaps Xross Saber's a reference to the crossguarded sword. The Haouken Xross Saber certainly reminds me of one!
I think you're probably right here, it's just...
unfortunate
.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
everyone in Showa getting crucified because it happened a bunch in Ultraman due to one of the creative team being Catholic and that ended up being popular for some reason
Oh my gosh, please tell me that's a true story! I want to believe that so much!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
This is a pretty good Twitter thread that goes over - in a broad sense - most of the ideas in use
.
This is
fascinating
and wonderful, thank you so much for linking this. Reading through this made me feel really happy in a way to see this laid out because these ideas and beliefs were super important to me when I was young, and had a tremendous influence on me growing up. I am still a curmudgeon and will stand by the fact that it is my opinion
Saber
does not tell its story well, but I can't begrudge them for having done their homework.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
FairyKing
But then for Xross Saber, I think the "crossguard" explanation is probably better, since the sword's most notable feature is its crossguard being a moving part.
I do think you're probably right about the guard, but yeah, as mentioned above, I find it an unsavoury connotation. I'm not
really
offended, but I do still feel that a better effort could have been made.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Layton13
I don't think it would be that weird if it's truly based on the Christian cross. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism that was born from the belief that the Messiah had died for our sins, while in Judaism they are still waiting for him. This fits perfectly what Touma's role is in the show, does it not?
Layton, I know you're not trying to be rude, but so much of this is
contentious
. You're not taking into account the long, long history of the way in which such reasoning has been used to persecute Jews of all walks of life. The role of the Messiah is a whole complex thing that is really so much more than just "oh, wasn't that Jesus?" This makes it sound like Judaism should be considered as just pre-Christianity, and... it's not.
It's like... it's like me saying, hey, America is historically descended from Europe, right? So, it's cool if I use European flags to depict America? Obviously it's
not
, it's kind of laughable that I would seek to do so, and it ignores a significant historical struggle as well as railroads the rights of a group of people to both recognition and respect.
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