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TokuNation watches Kamen Rider Decade
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Man, that was faster than usual! Okay, I have a few more points about Agito I want to discuss first and then I'll move on to Den-O.
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I think the thing that maybe didn't work for me in Decade's Shouichi is that, for almost the entire story, he's just Ryou? I know that my initial formulation for Shouichi was that he was mostly Hikawa, because of the Yashirozawa of it all, but he's missing
so much
of Hikawa's personality.
Like, the easy description is "G3-X who became Gills", but that misses how much Ryou and Hikwawa would deal with adversity differently. Ryou would grit his teeth and brood as the universe shit on him, then lash out at anyone who would pity him. Hikawa would assume that he brought it on himself...
somehow
, and then cheerfully step to the side so that his cosmic annihilation didn't upset or distract any of his friends/enemies. This Shouichi misses out on the Imposter Syndrome that defines Hikawa, the unshakeable belief that he isn't good enough to be worth cheering on.
I wonder if this Shouichi would've felt less like a cipher to me if he'd had that weird I Appreciate You Giving Up On Me energy that Hikawa had, rather than Ryou's more stock Please Watch My Misery antihero thing. I don't know.
I guess Shouichi being an Agito would go against Hikawa's traits. The whole point of Hikawa is how he thinks he's useless as just a regular human in a show full of Agitos. So having a version of him who is a dormant Agito and apparently excelled at being G3-X rather than doing merely an average job would mean he wouldn't have any reason to feel like such a constant failure, right?. I mean, I agree with you that he doesn't really have that personality, but maybe it's just hard to integrate that personality to an Agito, instead of a regular human who lacks self-confidence? It sucks though, since I could relate a lot to Hikawa and this composite Shouichi character is missing a lot of that.
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DreadBringer
No offense, but personally this story also had some unnecessary difficulty for me, with, yeah, many complaints about Onodera not using Kuuga's power. I'd probably tolerate it better when there are reasons of Onodera not being able to henshin into Kuuga, but here, it's just unnecessary difficulty for the story to have him undergo probably unnecessary set up for G3-X to fight off monsters like Grongi or Unknowns. With no reason, I think Onodera should've been able to easily prove himself by turning into Kuuga, either for him going back into impressing Yashiro (probably also getting him accepted into work at the G3 team), or him fightiing for others here.
But Yuusuke scolded Kaito for using Diend instead of G3-X, considering him to be mocking Yashiro's invention. This shows development for Yuusuke as he doesn't just think about looking cool anymore. He actually wants to help and support Yashiro with test driving her Rider System. Due to the magical stone in his body, he can probably use it easier than most humans. However, I thought it was weird how G3-X was deemed obsolete to Agito in the end, which it kind of is but still, that's not really a good way to get people to think the Secondary Rider is cool.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER DIE:
You figured right!
And with that, we leave the World of Den-O for... the World of Den-O Movie! Enchilada645 and I will be back in just a couple days to see how Team Decade deals with giant warships, teenage Ryotaros, and an unpredictable amount of Movie Forms in (deep breath) "Cho Kamen Rider Den-O & Decade Neo Generations: The Onigashima Warship". We might not be going anywhere, but the Journey through Decade continues!
Wow, En-chan's doing Chou Den-O & Decade with you as well? That's dedication!
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Enchilada645
And I think back to Super Hero Taisen (my favorite of his appearances) and realizing what happened there with him and like... okay yeah that would paint my bias of what I want Diend to be a bit because he was great in that.
He was a villain throwing a tantrum in SHW though. Or is that what you liked about it?
Now for my thoughts on the World of Den-O, which as others have said isn't very different from regular Den-O. I was expecting Momotaros to acknowledge Decade Kamen Riding in to Kiva though, since he should remember him from Climax Deka. Or was that a side effect of his memory loss?
Den-O is 10/19 in my Heisei Rider Ranking. Terrible plot (Time Nonsense, future Sakurai, etc), saved by amazing characters and Ryutaros' subplot with Airi. Den-O is kind of like Decade in that way, these characters can Ore Sanjou in to any story since they don't really have one of their own and as it turns out, that's not entirely a bad thing.
Momotaros is the same Momotaros. Why fix what ain't broken? Or rather, he is broken and that's what Tsukasa's job is in this world, to help Momotaros remember who he is. Imagins rely so much on their contracts to give them their appearance, so it's a nice moral to have Tsukasa encourage Momotaros to just imagine himself back to normal and it's fitting for his Final Form Ride to change from Denliner to literally himself. Memories are time after all, so as long as Momotaros remembers he has an identity, he can't truly lose himself.
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