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TokuNation watches Kamen Rider Decade
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09-28-2021, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by
Enchilada645
I'll say this about Decade Complete, kickass debut. Really good.
That fight sequence is incredibly good! It doesn't have that same sense of unbridled nostalgia that the Hibiki finish had, but it still manages a HEY IT'S RYUKI SURVIVE or whatever, and it doesn't wear out its welcome with the approach. Guy shows up, finishing move, guy disappears. Short and sweet.
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Originally Posted by
Androzani84
Besides, my least favourite finale rom is still Brave Legacy Gamer, since it’s just regular Brave with a cape and shoulder pads.
Final Forms for ancillary Riders... are
any
of them good? I think of most of them being steps down from the base suits, with a couple minor exceptions. What are some good Secondary/Tertiary Final Forms I'm forgetting about?
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
You'd mean personal as making up your own observation? Because yeah it can be good (for transformative fan purpose I think), though I think it's 50-50, while you can go beyond what the creators intended, but it can come in nasty way as well when you got something bad out of it for your personal observation of a series, and you constantly slander either the series or the creator by that, even ignoring the creator's explanation to set things straight or such. I mean I'd disapprove of the personal part being having everything in a series must be relatable to you, and that if they add values that feel more alien then it's bad (using subjective views as certainty), like something such as honesty, integrity, trust, etc. which can be seen as too clean for modern world.
I think it's an inevitable thing. We All Process Art Differently, etc etc. Everyone's bringing their own life experiences to art, so they're bound to draw out one or two things that connect with them on a personal level. It's natural.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I'd like to hear what do you mean that it's not easy (which turns it into a testament of your character), as you hold many weight in what you say here.
I'm not sure what this is referring to, sorry! Can you give me a little more of an explanation?
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Originally Posted by
Daikaijuman54
The Evil Riders were pretty neat, despite me not having seen any of them (except for recently, being Ryuuga), and almost felt symbolic after Decade acquired the powers of the nine Riders and now has to fight their evil counterparts. And Tsukasa accepting that he doesn't belong in any world, but just a passing through Kamen Rider was honestly, perfect.
Yeah, him finally valuing the journey rather than the destination... it's a good note for the character!
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
You can already be on a journey without consciously setting out on one, like what TG Club's advisor said, "this flunking was special education!", or something like that.
Everything with advisor felt like it was going to be some clue that, like, Natsumi's memories were being altered or something. It was so
unreal
, that guy's attitude, that I thought it was setting up a twist. But then it didn't? It was just some teacher who gave them an A+ in Refusing To Follow Society's Rules But Then Deciding To Fit In On Your Own Terms? I would not have been shocked if that dude turned out to not even work for the school, he was just some weirdo who wanted to hang out with cool teenagers.
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Originally Posted by
Kurona
I don't typically dislike Final Forms. A lot of them are ridiculous and silly and over the top but frankly it's
Toku,
that's half the fun! Stuff like Decade Complete and Meteor Storm and
Snipe Level 50
... it naturally doesn't have the same appeal as, say, Tajador or Kuuga Ultimate or Ghost Mugen but it's beautiful and fun in its own way.
I was with you until you called out Snipe Level 50, aka The Suit That Made Me Start Watching Kamen Rider, as not as pure and beautiful and universal as Tajador or Ghost Mugen. Too far, Kurona!
You crossed a line!
But, honestly, I get where you're coming from. When I complain about Decade Complete (or Fourze Cosmic States, my previous least-favorite suit), it's just personal preference. I don't think the suits are Bad, or even Ineffective. I just don't like looking at them. I'll joke around, but I'll glad acknowledge that every suit probably has a fan for every detractor. We all process suits differently!
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
If they hadn't decided to push Decade this far back then, I feel like they wouldn't have had the courage to make any of the Ex-Aid designs later, you know?
what is it about a hot pink and fluorescent yellow-colored, bike shorts-wearing, spike-haired superhero design that you think takes courage to produce
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
(And the K-Touch is just plain cool. Love that thing.)
I thought we were friends, and you just
wound
me like this. Hurtful. Hurtful words.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
Anyway, yeah, this two-parter still isn't a favorite of mine. I guess fitting that spiel about Complete Form, it definitely sticks in my memory, at least, but I agree with most of your non-suit related opinions here. It's a shame, too, because that really is such a definitive Tsukasa speech! Just one of many solid pieces in these episodes that can't quite coalesce into something greater.
I feel like this two-parter is going to be something that informs my view of the series, while being a) nothing I'm going to remember the story of, and b) not one I'm rushing to revisit. Like, it manages to successfully evolve Tsukasa's character, establishing him as someone who is now traveling because that's his take on heroism instead of being cajoled or rewarded, while still doing it in a dull, diffused way. It's a story that works great if I talk about it thematically, but disappoints if I talk about it narratively.
INOUE FOREVER!
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Originally Posted by
DreamSword
I actually liked this arc for the most part.
That is a positive outcome! Don't be shy about it!
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