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TokuNation watches Kamen Rider Decade
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10-04-2021, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
It might've helped the story if we'd understood Kaitou's backstory a little better (why did he think forcing people into a reeducation camp was better than having magic bugs injected into their brains?) via further flashbacks, but that just feeds into the bigger problem of trying to create all of this backstory for Kaitou -- and resolve it -- in about 40 minutes. More context would be great!
Maybe in some earlier stories!
Not even only Kaitou, some people would also defend bad behavior and mindsets (either from themselves or from others including fictional characters), like to continue with their bad behavior freely and not think anything about it, as the bad behavior can be overlooked (or probably the blame will be deflected to others such as the victims) if they successfully defend it. They'd support the bad behavior and do everything possible to make others believe it's not happening and sweep it under the rug. Overall they want the benefit of acting unethically, without paying any price in terms of being shunned or punished for acting unethically; they want something without having to pay for it, which'd suits Kaitou who is a thief.
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Kamen Rider Die
I did! But Kai was (to me)
commenting
on vague endgame villains, while Narutaki is a vague
full-series
villain. Narutaki isn't really saying anything about how toku series can derail emotional threads with ever-escalating villainous schemes, and he's also been a total mystery for 23 out of 31 episodes. Different thing.
Well yeah, though Kai is an endgame villain, Kai is still considered Den-O's big bad, the series' main antagonist. Though yeah I'd probably want for the irony and hypocrisy of Narutaki's self-righteousness where he can accomplish something as bad as Decade does to get rid of him to be touched upon.
Don't know if you'd have patience for this, but I'd like to hear your responses on what I wrote before:
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I have to probably stir shit again here that, a dystopian world where the citizens are forced to be nice or such is a thing that exist in a handful of media, like here and here. I don't know about the lesson of letting people being a douchebag, though obviously forcing them to be nice is a dubious and underhanded approach. T̶o̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶g̶r̶e̶e̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶r̶u̶l̶e̶s̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶d̶i̶c̶t̶a̶t̶o̶r̶s̶h̶i̶p̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶e̶n̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶g̶o̶o̶d̶,̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶l̶u̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶T̶o̶k̶u̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶s̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶p̶e̶t̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶u̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶g̶u̶i̶s̶e̶?̶! The advantage of letting people be assholes, it would be knowing to stay away and/or act rather than being unknowingly screwed up over two-faced acts?
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Fish Sandwich
That being said, I kind of actively loathed what Inoue did with Newsuke here? He used to be a Cool Guy in-training who set off on this adventure with everyone to honor Yashiro's wish for him to protect people's smiles, but now apparently he's just looking for a world where everyone is already smiling to settle down in? It's like Inoue asked for a description of the character, and whoever he was talking to got as far as "Well, he can be rather naïve, and gets into his share of embarassing situations, but—" before Inoue said he got the gist of it, and, man, I mean he might have
actually
not known this guy was supposed to be Kuuga?
What do you think about Onodera rarely fighting as Kuuga before ep. 20? Or you're solely talking about his motivation in Inoue's hands of only settling down in his ideal world? Besides of that I wonder what'd you talk about Inoue's treatment for Godai in manga adaptation, i̶n̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶K̶u̶u̶g̶a̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶.̶
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TheRaizin
He's one of the few writers we got who absolutely wants to do something that goes absolutely out of the 'safe' radar, and that's a blast to watch when the execution is great. Faiz still being one of my favorites out of him. I unironically feel we need more of him.
If the execution is great? For that I wonder if you know about the (which may be also the source of his reputation too) TV production team keeping him on a leash or about his side work like the novels; him without leash. His TV stuff is also a restrained product of him; if we need him then we need the TV crew too (I don't like someone recognizable being given all the credits alone). Personally I'd not like if he forces his out of the safe radar in someone's story derailing their characters or such, where yeah, from before, I'd not like a view whene every protagonist should be made like Tendou or Tsukasa, or that to "fix" a character they have to be made (at least, making them worse is fine too) like those 2, which Inoue can sort of doing that (if not turning them into jerks, it can be about flanderizing their character into carricatures such as Todoroki in Hibiki), probably just treating anyone like the people in ep. 22-23 and working on "revealing their true nature".
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