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Kamen Rider Revice Episode 27- "Tyrants' Rampage & Violent Runaway" Discussion
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henshinzero
Who here votes George will do well & be officially Demons for the rest of the series?
Well Olteca claims to be the official Demons, but hey, I'll gladly accept George as the new official Demons! He could even be the new official Jeanne and he'd still be awesome!
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DreadBringer
Olteca and Demons parted ways again faster, with Holy Live being outright stomping him in a fight, though taking a while for Holy Live to put down Demons, as Demons did punch Holy Live, but it had no effect. Other than that, Olteca's even more fleshed out in this episode, and it's nice that even a purely evil villains got this without giving them redeeming traits when Olteca displayed his nihilistic worldview like him thinking promises are meant to be broken or that he thinks happiness can only be gained from sacrificing others, to psyche out Daiji killing Kagerou before. I'm one of those that hoped Olteca won't be redeemed, and now he's shown to have a dark kind of backstory too that his father abused him due to being a freak via being a prodigy. One of the worst instance of "redemption" in
Gai from Zero-One
had the series using father abuse (and not as bad as this) acting as it's
the only reason Gai treated everyone terrible and that the daddy issues alone are fully sufficient path for redemption
, and I hope Olteca's backstory involving father won't be used like that.... as Olteca goes even further in his cruelty, using Giff ViStamp on a
young child
this time. Otherwise I predicted about Olteca mass turning people into Giftarians as a sacrifice for Giff in the preview before. I don't know how did those people get unconsious though. Now there goes the chance to kill Olteca easily (like when Aguilera worked with him again) as Giff protects him when Holy Live attacked him, and his presumed evolution in preview. There's also a tease of Olteca and Akaishi breaking apart too.
Olteca is human though, right? He doesn't have his Driver or his Giftex form, so Kamen Riders can't in good conscience kill him when there might be a way to spare his life. After all, Ikki's and Daiji's agreement to share the burden only applied to Giftex, before Ikki obtained Volcano Rex's power to save them. Regarding Olteca's capacity for redemption, I can still see it happening, especially now that his tragic backstory has been elaborated on. His father was an a**hole for sure. However, Olteca's redemption must ultimately come down to whether or not he shows genuine remorse for his sins and a willingness to atone for them (without acting OOC like Mitsuzane). It's maybe not something I would have considered before, but if even a guy like Adel could be forgiven for everything he did, then there might still be hope for Olteca. It's the same for Gai, his tragic backstory is what turned him to evil, but his redemption only happened when he remembered why he wanted to become president of Hiden in the first place, cause he truly loved Hiden Intelligence from the bottom of his heart. Maybe Olteca loves something as well.
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DreadBringer
It seems that even Yukimi had a bit of a selfish going with the past that she wanted to keep the family's happiness thus she kept Genta's backstory a secret from everyone. This can be the keeping secret to honor Genta type, but this is also the keeping secrets to keep people she loves happy, the "doing what's best for them in their mind" type, which can remind me of certain characters.... obviously if it's really Yukimi being in the wrong, then she gotta apologize for keeping secret.
She did name the sento Shiawase Yu after all, so it makes sense that she would value people's happiness over telling the truth. I'm not defending her decision to keep Genta's origins secret from her kids, but I guess I can understand why she did it. I think she's still a great mother, as the voice of reason who helped a lot with their development, like Ikki needing more happiness and love. She even forgave Vice for trying to eat her. It's all thanks to her saving Genta from his past that the Igarashi family has been able to enjoy a happy life until now.
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