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By the way, is Zi-O being accused of manipulation? He is the most frank with everyone and even his uncle cannot really lie!
Not so much accused, but manipulation is shown to be one of Sougo's unconscious talents. Geiz and Tsukuyomi often underestimate him due to his innocuous appearance unlike the dreaded Oma Zi-O. Sougo uses their perception of him to gain the element of surprise and persuade them to do what he wants, while they don't realize this until it's already happened. He doesn't lie exactly, but he will omit inconvenient truths. We see a little of this trait in the Wizard arc, but it shines in the following OOO arc.
However, I don't think this is necessarily a bad trait, nor do I think it makes Sougo any less heroic. The Sougo we know generally only uses it for good and due to his lack of friends, it's probably his coping mechanism and the only way he knows how to work with people who regularly debate whether or not they should kill him.
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Those acts from Sento are entirely undermined by the way he treats everyone, especially Ryuga. "I need to show Banjo the way" comes across as really condescending to me, for instance. Maybe it's an issue with my subs or maybe it's a cultural thing, but I am definitely not vibing with the guy.
Sento proudly boasts about his self-proclaimed title being something like, "the genius narcissistic hero of love and peace", so all of those contrasting traits are a part of his identity, which he values due to his memory loss. Those traits carry over to his aesthetic as Build as well, the rabbit referencing his will to protect smiles and the tank referencing his capacity for destruction, fitting with the Kamen Rider philosophy that unpleasant things are sometimes necessary for the ultimate good.
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Meanwhile with Ryuga, sure, I wouldn't say he's a great guy, but alot of his actions and his general thought process are really understandable for the most part. Sento promises to help Ryuga clear his name only to proceed to not actually put any effort towards that. Ryuga's' primary motive is also to avenge his girlfriend and to make sure that no one else suffers as she did, which I'd personally qualify as far more heroic than anyone in the show gives him credit for.
While Ryuuga does develop to become more heroic, actually as a result of Sento imprinting on him, his initial motivation is pretty much mostly to get revenge on Night Rogue and has no problem using ruthless tactics to accomplish this, such as turning Tatsuya in to a Smash to lure him to the enemy's base. Ryuuga also complains the most about his situation as a framed fugitive in hiding, even though his disguises at least allow him to go outside while Misora is restricted to the fridge basement for like the entire first quarter. Sento has his own problem with his memory loss, but hardly brings it up, focusing mostly on his mission to help others as a Kamen Rider.
Shame that you're not enjoying the show and protagonist (also a self-proclaimed title for Sento, not like he's wrong either) much so far, but I hope you'll still find the winning formula in later episodes when the plot starts to escalate quickly.
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