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Kamen Rider Geats Episode 21- "Divergence V: Gazers Hammer!" Discussion
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02-10-2023, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
Mesnick
I think the guys are smart enough to understand that this is a game with its own rules. And, given that the dangers lie in wait for them on all sides, quarreling over such nonsense is simply stupid.
I think it's still worth questioning as the DGP keeps pitting the Riders against each other, like only giving the wish to the winner alone which they have to compete for, and especially this DezaStar stuff, turning their desperation and desire to turn them against each other, like to entertaining the sponsors or audiences.
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Originally Posted by
KamenRanger1997
I hope Beroba recruits a whole team of bad Riders like Daapan, Mary and the ones from Michinagas flashback
The most interesting part here would be how Michinaga reacts to the Riders from his flashback. Da-Paan and Mary should still have infighting due to Da-Paan's hatred of humanity where he brushes off Mary coldly in ep. 2 too.
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Originally Posted by
StardustWhip
- On the note of Neon being Desire Star, I'm wondering if this means that she's got a chance of being the ultimate winner and Desire God of this DGP iteration?
Like, at this point in the series, I can't imagine they'll still be having Geats win. And especially considering that his wish this time is to be Game Master of the DGP. With a wish like that, a wish that the out-of-universe higher-ups at Toei Studios would never allow to be granted, I feel like the only question is who he's losing to.
I feel like, for plot reasons, Keiwa might win this one. As you said Ace might not win anymore due to his wish perhaps making him unable to participate again, but Neon winning would perhaps remove her from the plot as she can be done after getting her wish (in the manner she wanted ofc), and Michinaga winning will remove the very premise (Riders..) of the series. Previously I didn't agree on Keiwa's wish having bad consequences when the bad ones are returned as they may stay out of the DGP as normal human (like Asakura in Ryuki's TV ending), but now I agree it can happen due to Beroba assembling the bad Riders, which can cause new story conflict with her recruiting many of the revived bad Riders.
And perhaps, this is Neon's turn to get eliminated before the final round, as
Takahashi has said about regular characters retiring
, and every main Rider other than her has gotten it (Tycoon ep. 8, Geats ep. 14, Buffa ep. 15).
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Sh Ranger
I think Michinaga is still a little more honorable than Gazelle and Elephant though, at least he relied on his own power to take back his Zombie Raise Buckle from Lopo in a fair 1v1. Since he's on the Jyamato side now, he's playing by Jyamato rules.
Dunno about how fighting it out making it more ok (as he 'relies on his power'). Brute power is just one of the tools you have and can use to oppress others, other than to do heroism or something, and you've said that Sougo isn't less heroic for manipulating for good. A̶s̶a̶k̶u̶r̶a̶ ̶i̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶S̶h̶i̶b̶a̶u̶r̶a̶ ̶b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶h̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶s̶ ̶r̶a̶w̶ ̶p̶o̶w̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶o̶r̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶d̶e̶c̶e̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶R̶y̶u̶k̶i̶.̶ Him willingly siding with the Jamatos shows that he has Baron path too though, and if he's better than Baron, it's "less villainous" at this point.
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Sh Ranger
I guess it's one of those types of foreshadowing that makes sense after the reveal. When Ace and Keiwa were eating steak, Ace revealed that he was among the three that voted against him, with the other two being Sae and Daichi. Neon, as the true Desire Star, must've pitied him for getting set up by Daichi, so she decided not to pile on out of principle. Even as the Desire Star, she's still the same kind Neon.
The same... nah, as the reason I suspected Neon as the DezaStar from the start was her behavior towards Keiwa in the first 2 episodes of Divergence DGP (other than the breakfast scene), either dismissive or outright hostile. When Daichi sets Keiwa up, Neon acted like she didn't know anything regarding Keiwa recognizing the Jamato-Rider connections, even when she was besides him when Keiwa talked about it to Girori. She's the only one I feel has some differences (some OOC traits) in those 2 episodes (before ep. 19, which had her finally speaking up for him to Sae), while I feel Ace, Sae, Daichi, and Keiwa all act normally, DezaStar or not (though Keiwa has insane unlucky traits which'd make him my 2nd suspect to be the DezaStar before). But now as it's official, those differences may be explained by the DezaStar mission cards she got at that time.
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