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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

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Already said there for difference, bruh, Riders don't get reset after the end of DGP seasons unlike civilians. I don't know why you'd imply that helping Riders would also be awarded with points, seems like just outright making up to make the Riders in DGP look bad.

And at the same time, points are taken away for attacking another rider. The purely logically opposite action should be rewarded. In fact, it is easy to see that the competition in games mainly depends on the nature of the players. The first featured antagonistic Dapan and Merry, conflicted Michinaga and Ace with his deceptions. The third compared to her, even despite the presence of DezaStar, is much more friendly.

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Also I don't know why murder seems to be viewed as the most pleasing and benefical thing for anyone, to make "not resorting to murder" as something to praise?

For the same reason why you equate ordinary kindness with heroism below.

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Actually, in ep. 22, Tycoon has been hit by traps due to his carelessness multiple times even before she directed him to a trap, that can be likely an insurance for her to know that Tycoon would be fine - Na-Go watches at least the banana one which only consists of him being splat with water. And you're still deliberately ignoring the canon part of forced missions to assume that hoping that Keiwa would suffer enough to be expelled. If she really wanted to off the other Riders, she could've done it with the bombs like, throwing them on untransformed players (mere human), but eh, she only threw them once while protected, she does those to be considered as having completed the mission, not to put victory above all else.

Possibly, but not convincingly. The traps are different, the effect could also be different. Plus, whatever one may say, Keiwa still got hurt. I also think that the reason is not so much in Keiwa's character, but in the fact that in the first episode, the audience saw what was happening through his eyes. Again, Ace doesn't give many reasons to associate with him.

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While perhaps her wish can be done without supernatural forces, I think that shouldn't be interpreted as solely only romantic love (which ep. 21 confirms). It's true that most of her issues really stem from her parents, but for moving out, she has tried where she has trackers placed on her belongings. And dating is also a part of her mom's control, who refused to let her socialize (particularly with people outside their circle), and she's in an arranged marriage setup so romantic love also puts her at odds with her mom. The lack of true love from her parents means that her life would be constantly made dysfunctional by them - like her mom deleting her videos, even if she regains her memories.

But Neon is unwilling to mend her relationship with her parents, so her family problems are the obvious cause of her desire for love, but not what she is trying to fix. But in any case, no matter what kind of love awaits her, it is still a wish that can be fulfilled without the help of DGP. And in general, for any love, the desires of two are important.

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The bolded one was what I meant regarding what I said before of "heroic requires them to suffer", as if they are forbidden to eat to be one here. It's ok for them to strategize and look for the most optimal way to improve everyone's state, or as much as they can (no, not "the needs of the many" type where you'd deliberately fuck up those unlucky few), including themselves - 'making everyone happy' phrase technically would mean themselves as well. Strategizing helps you become an effective hero and help people effectively, reckless self-sacrifice shouldn't be hailed as the only heroic way. Being generous doesn't mean bankrupt. The reason I brought up Tojo previously was that, he did nothing heroic in those sufferings he brought upon himself because, his actions brought nothing good to anyone.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with a deliberate feat. But at the same time it does not allow to appreciate the true human nature. If he helps only when it does not harm himself, if between the salvation of the many and the one, he always chooses the many, except when the "one" is himself, is this heroism? And that's what the comparison with a millionaire is what. If he ever finds himself in a bad financial situation, he may well not only stop feeding the hungry, but also deliberately take away their last. Is he a hero then? Even if, having improved his condition, he begins to help those in need again, all the harm cannot be corrected.It's just that if a person changes under the circumstances, then we do not know his present. And in some cases, it may not be real at all.

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And I think reputation shouldn't be used as a measuring stick for morals, because it's entirely other people's reaction which is out of their control; people aren't less heroic due to for example, being hated by public - opposite of being honored/admired, like due to negative PR campaign (while for opposite, there can be villains who are well-liked by public due to hiding their true colors).

I will say this: if you are hated, you deserve it. You may have been slandered by bad guys with good deeds, but they had reasons to defame your reputation. Well, it's a celebrity problem in general.

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People can be just plain wrong and not everything people on internet says have to be validated. There's a difference between fact and opinion. Keiwa not being MC is a fact as it's already stated that he's the "Rider No. 2" to Ace's "Rider No. 1". Those people don't know to differentiate between role and characterization (assuming Keiwa is the MC because he's the most similar to most previous MCs in character, but MC doesn't care about how is your character - main protagonists can be outright villains).

Well, Ace also only shines when the plot allows it and often ends up in the background. I would not call him a bright MC.