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It's appropriate that the ending theme is called Promise, as I am about to fulfill the promise I made in the Saber thread to talk about this movie!

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

KAMEN RIDER: BEYOND GENERATIONS

It?s a story that the Saber cast is around for, without them ever feeling crucial to the narrative.

Agreed. However, I'm not going to complain about seeing those lovable characters again. Sure, most of it is just meaningless fanservice (especially for Rintarou fans ), but I thought it was nice to see how their lives are going and that Sophia and Reika seem to be cool with each other now as they sat at the same table in Shiawase-Yu without rancor.

But if there was a common connection between Revice and Saber, it would be Family, right? Revice made a big deal about that being its central theme, but before that, it was the center of Rintarou's arc and motivation for his loyalty to SOL, his familial attachment to his friends and having to learn to dissociate them from the organisation. Honestly, I'd even say that Saber is more focused on Family than Revice.

There is a weird plot hole with this crossover though, that Saber's epilogue takes place a year after the final battle against Storious, but for Revice, it's still 2021.... Touma should be in Wonder World! The Seiken Swords should be dormant! The timeline is messed up even before involving the time travel plot!

And how does Ikki even Henshin without Vice?!

Despite the many logical errors that litter this movie, I did enjoy it for the heartwarming story about the relationship between father and son spanning 100 years. How about that awesome Mount Fuji climax! Xross Saber's back! Since Zero One got screwed out a Movie War, Revice even get a giant-sized Zero One-themed form to give the illusion that he's there!

Future George and his Clone Riders also play an important part in the fanfic I wrote last year, which is kind of like an AU prequel set in 2065-2066.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Well, I didn't know the Riderman similarities, but I still found the emotional core of the film to be not exactly to my liking. It's two dudes I didn't connect with, having an argument about a thing I didn't enjoy.

Yeah, this might be where your reluctance to "truck with Showa" is to the detriment of your enjoyment of this movie. Or, even if you still disagreed with it, maybe you could've appreciated the consistency at least. The way Hongo's approval of Ryunosuke as a true Kamen Rider calls back to Kazami Shirou's approval of Yuki Joji. The way Hongo's gratitude for being remodified calls back to Tsukuba Hiroshi's gratitude towards the scientist who performed his surgery. It's all pretty faithful to Ishinomori's vision, whether that's your thing or not.

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

Wow

Dreamsword was right.

Kudos Dreamsword! You called both parts all the way!

I recall about DreamSword disliking the movie, but I forget what predictions he called. Can somebody remind me please?

I know he hadn't watched SkyRider at the time, so I'm curious to know if his opinion has changed since then.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

This one too, with the Riders provided to the cast consisting of random power level of it, I wondered how capable are those Rider forms, which like you said, it's just a disservice to have Hyper Muteki getting hard time against fodders.

George: "Hmm, I wonder which party member I should give Hyper Muteki to."

Sakura: "Muteki."

George: "Meh, guess I'll just give it to Yuri-sempai then."

Yuri: "How prodigious!"

Why is EX-Aid the only Rider to get two places in the roster anyway?