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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Revice
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REVICE LEGACY: KAMEN RIDER VAIL - EPISODE 1
It helps that it?s sketching in the backstory of Yukimi and Genta/Junpei, two characters I am enormously invested in ? but it weirdly helps more that it?s all so
inessential
. It?s not something the show desperately needed to tell me (there?s really nothing in here that we didn?t learn from the last couple episodes, aside from? well, we?ll get to that), so the pressure is less on upending my expectations or setting up some huge reveal, and more on trying to tell an emotionally coherent backstory for two integral, but largely-background cast members. It?s just this little story about Kamen Rider Vail, and the woman who fell in love with him.
You said you weren't going to remember another name for Genta but you did anyway.
While Yukimi is the only sane person and heart of the Igarashi family, it's here in this spin-off where we can see how much that means. The one who can turn Genta from angry revenge man to goofy vlogging man.
Revice Legacy Vail is a sweet love story for sure and something I could look forward to each week. The prequel setting gives Mouri the freedom to write however he wants to and I think he does a great job. I like the ED theme a lot as well, performed by Yukimi's 20s and 40s actresses.
BTW, Yukimi's 20s actress, Okubo Sakurako, was previously Hammie/Chamaeleon Green in Kyuranger, which shares the producer with Revice and was also written by Mouri.
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I think it's may be fair to expect and have Ikki try to understand Olteca, but, what if after Ikki actually tried, Olteca's proven to be irredeemable? Would having tragic backstory means they're free from any blames and it's still the only other party's fault? (e.g. Ikki is too much of an insensitive egotist thus he's complicit in being unable to redeem Olteca and keeps him going). What should Ikki do next after it's proven that he's beyond redemption? Tragic backstory to explain aside, Olteca is just like Asakura and Kitazaki in evilness - of which Shinji tried for Asakura but it's revealed that he's truly beyond redemption.
Tragic backstory doesn't absolve Olteca, but that information can provide a solution for others to help him recover from the trauma, like how Reiko and Shinji tried to help Asakura after finding out about the fire and his surviving brother. Even though that ended badly, you can't know the outcome for sure unless you try. Shinji still declared to Kanzaki that protecting people includes protecting Riders and later that "nobody is better off dead", as even Asakura's life was important to Mika (those two episodes are next on my rewatch). If Ikki was willing to see potential for change in Suzu, due to her tragic backstory, then it seems OOC and disappointing that he couldn't do the same for Olteca.
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And I agree with the declaration sounding like prejudice (though he shouldn't be condemned for rubbing someone the wrong way), but, about you, didn't you think that it's only ok for someone to resort into for example, killing when they've given up their humanity such as turning themselves into monsters? I'd also think that while perhaps humans (normal, outside of KR) can be more neutralized, it should be also acknowledged that there can be human villains who are much worse than any monster, also not judging good/bad by species alone.
Ikki and Daiji already had to kill three Giftex due to their powers at the time being unable to defeat them non-lethally. Even in the Ghost example I gave, Takeru was forced to kill Adel since the Ganmaizers refused to let Adel live. Unless mercy is refused, like Desast demanding Kenzan to not hold back, then heroes should always strive to save those they can, which is the minimum Ikki did for Olteca before Gif finished him. Ikki doesn't bother to give Olteca a clear explanation for his confusing statement, only that he's crossed a line and whatever, which I'm not sure how Olteca or anybody in his position is supposed to take that in a constructive way. Being hated by his father was the reason he turned out like that, after all, so more hatred solves nothing.
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