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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Revice
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06-28-2023, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER REVICE MOVIE SPIN-OFF NET DRAMA: BIRTH OF CHIMERA
It doesn’t help that Azuma/Daimon makes almost no sense in this. He’s a
different
Giff acolyte from the ancient past that we’ve somehow never heard of until now, until Hiromi
AND HIROMI ALONE
stumbles upon him after 80 years in the jungle, at which point he goes back to civilization for basically the exact opposite reasons he left in the first place. Nothing he’s doing makes any specific sense (and he gets three costume changes in this one goddamn special!), except for the parts that just come off like a less-interesting Akaishi. I do not like this movie villain, and the movie hasn’t even started yet.
Guess Azuma being another giff acolyte explains how he can go toe to toe with Chimera while unmorphed. Not as flashy as Akaishi's showings in ep. 33, but he's not a normal human. What I think was that, who tf he is to have a right to judge humanity, what makes him above them to think that he's while all humans doing this are foolish. Ikki actually addressed this in the actual movie. Felt more like Azuma's grief of losing his loved ones was also shoehorned at the end of their climatic fight (though maybe it shapes his apathy towards the casualties, being lazy to take them into consideration to endanger passengers just to get Igarashis), that his conflict with Ikki was about how Azuma dismisses the casualties in the name of greater mission (m̶a̶n̶,̶ ̶d̶u̶n̶n̶o̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶G̶e̶a̶t̶s̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶R̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶B̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶F̶a̶m̶i̶l̶i̶a̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶), while Ikki thinks every little thing like few lives or happiness is important (the right way), with the pregnant woman (portrayed by Zyuohger's Haruka Tateishi) only being done to prove this point.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER REVICE THE MOVIE - BATTLE FAMILIA
Don’t get me wrong, there’re a million things I could humorously complain about from this film: “Game On”; Area 666; Science Tassel; Chic; Giffamilia Reunion; whatever Nozomu’s story was supposed to be. It’s a dumb movie – relentlessly, thoroughly, astoundingly. Nearly every scene is dumber than the one before it, and the movie ends with Ikki and Azuma fist-bumping in front of an explosion. The scene-to-scene continuity is absolutely insane, and most background details invite no small amount of pity. (One of the best is the reveal of the CGI Fenix jet that is too large to enter or exit the hangar it resides in.) This is, on one scale, maybe the
worst
summer movie I’ve ever seen.
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Mmicb0b
I know I'm late but something I DO LIKE is how they did NOT Redeem Olteca just because he had a sympathetic backstory this was a trend rider shows have been doing really bad as of late(I mean technically it started in Ghost but I Feel like Adel's backstory is the ONE THING that show other than designs did right IMO) but Ex-Aid is where it became a problem IMO Kuroto and Parado IMO DID NOT Deserve to be redeemed, and I'm told Zero One is WORSE in this regard but I do wish they just simply made Olteca the main villain because as I said when this show was airing I've never seen any show less interested in it's main villain (Giff) than this show while I DO LIKE how the 2nd half isn't just everyone getting the shit kicked out of them by the main villain unless they have a new toy to debut(BUILD) but by god did they fumble it
I really only wanted this to explain how George can change from being a mad scientist and potential villain to someone nice and helpful to the heroes. The excuses just contradict and is made up on the fly like first was "just following orders" to Akaishi, then they retconned that by introducing Chic. Guess perhaps how Chic worked is about being mad scientist and possessing others, but still doesn't explain how George discarded this behavior in middle part of the series. And Nozomu's story doesn't have really big role either to just use him to shill the Igarashi family in comparison. The Giffamilia Reunion, though Orteca's not redeemed, this still just doesn't explain why tf Orteca would agree to help others here, though still don't want this to be used to explain that he can/should be redeemed, because villains can do good thing/not do bad thing if it's the best decision they have and benefit them - villain pragmatism.
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Kamen Rider Die
This whole movie succeeds – to the degree that anything in this pratfall of a film can be considered a success – whenever the power of the Igarashi family is on display. That’s it. That’s the one thing this movie has going for it, beyond Geats. (So glad to see Geats! Even if his appearance here doesn’t technically work in the rules laid out for the Desire Grand Prix!) The Igarashis are, collectively, the absolute perfect mix of wacky, warm, heroic, and dramatic. This movie is 100% about leaning into that brilliant dynamic.
It's brief, but something that doesn't addressed is that, franchise-wise, Ace confronts the other, earlier Azuma here. After watching Geats up until now, forgot to feel that here Ace's genuineness isn't that clear yet watching him fight here (this one's first watch though). And where as you said here regarding Igarashi family being part warm and heroic, yeah this one shows that both Genta and Yukimi are concerned with others in general like the passengers, not strictly their family, with the latter already being Japan's #1 busybody as Vail Legacy established, though the former wasn't this as Junpei - the one that is similar to most secondary Riders for this franchise, only cared about revenge but not others' well-being (not both at once) u̶n̶l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶N̶o̶z̶o̶m̶u̶.
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I loved that part of it, and am happy to forget about anything that isn’t that. (So long forever, Nozomu and your vengeance!) Best part of the film is Fifty Gale, the upgrade that Yukimi maybe generates by drawing power from her desires and the DGP’s Desire Deity? (Not…
super
clear on this, despite cheering for it.) Like, the Revice Trinity Form is something
their mom makes them do
. PERFECT. I love it, and I’ll always love it. The chemistry of these five actors – alongside any number of girlfriends, Work Dads, puppets and voice actors – forgive any deficiencies in plot or premise. I just need Genta to get flirty with Yukimi, or Yukimi to tell Science Tassel that he just effed up, or the kids to support each other against a dual-language eternal executioner. The details of this movie are beyond clarification or defense; the characters are beyond reproach.
Though Kamen Rider Igarashi was not used for climax, albeit it does have good showings regarding his abilities being a combined of the 3 Igarashi sibling Riders, it was only used to fight off some (albeit tougher) mooks while not involving Azuma or Chic. And dunno why the characters don't use their final form like Revi and Vice, or Live, only saving it at certain moments, I don't think there's drawbacks on final forms here. Though it was going to come back against Chic, but Chic doesn't feel as powerful as I thought, albeit it does involve Dadstream who's by default more powerful base Rider. This is quite an asspull that Yukimi also has an inner demon, even though she's not a Giff descendant unlike the others.
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AkibaSilver
Hey, you're forgetting the OFFICIAL KAMEN RIDER WEBSITE STATISTICS FOR NERDS which offcially prove Kamen Rider Poppy is a final form level threat. Zero-Two should be glad to be in good company.
Man I guess jokes aside this sounds fair enough. This is a cross comparison between different series, not main series! Thus Ex-Aid Riders should be all superior to most other franchise Riders!
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