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REVICE FORWARD: KAMEN RIDER LIVE & EVIL & DEMONS

The one fresh thing in here is, perhaps unsurprisingly, the best thing this movie has going for it: Rumi and Hiromi’s bond. Way more than new suits (hideous) and an EP’s worth of new songs (not my thing), the addition of a niece for Hiromi is a legitimate evolution of his character, and an exciting concept to explore in a film. We’ve seen Hiromi as a son, and as a Work Dad, but what is he like with a child to protect? What does that do to his sense of responsibility? How does that interact with his new outlook on supporting others, rather than charging recklessly into battle?

Weird, I thought Hi-Rumi part takes up significant part of the movie, though ofc didn't really count how much percentage of the screentime of each parts. Though Hiromi's straight-up good, I've seen this kind of story of the protector and victim being stuck together and bonding, used in more morally grey heroes or outright bad guys (being called uncle too, on someone even younger) to humanize them instead, with that being used to justify the latter as a really good guy smh. Sure mostly what those are going through is mostly the same as what Hi-Rumi did, but it's the case of them discriminating against that specific victim to anyone else unlike Hiromi. And regarding Hiromi being actually-80-year-old, he'd not be really an uncle by that.

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Like, I never for a second thought Muramasa was Hiromi’s devil. For one, everything Kagerou (forever the voice of reason) points out via flashbacks: Hiromi’s devil was seen and destroyed in the first episode of Revice; while some people can generate a new devil, it’s not heart-on-their-sleeve goodies like Hiromi; we never saw it happen, so why are we taking Muramasa’s word for it. For another, the Chameleon Vistamp is right there in the opening sequence. The Chameleon Vistamp, which was integral for switching out Wakabayashi with a duplicate in Revice. It all adds up, and it’s frustrating to watch the movie insist It’s Definitely A Devil for so long when it’s obviously not. It requires no one to trust Hiromi, which is a huge thematic thing in the film, and it also requires multiple characters to be morons, which is not as much of a theme. (It’s more of a motif.) Sakura, Hana, and Tamaki watch a Hiromi that’s dressed up like a gangster change his hair and eye color while calling a wounded Hiromi a devil, and they’re all like YES KILL immediately. It’s dumb, and most of this plot is dumb.

It maybe runs on how a devil works on someone can vary, like the differences between Vice, Kagerou, and Lovekov, even though Hiromi's devil was alredy killed. Particularly that Hiromi isn't the only heart-on-their-sleeve goodie, where there's Ikki too, and Kagerou claims Daiji is that, where he feels that is a weakness. Felt that perhaps this establishes how Aguilera handles things as a good guy, outside of Sakura stuff, that she may can jump into fights and violence quickly, albeit dunno why Tamaki would do the same.

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The idea of a movie that’s about seeing characters like Kagerou as an aspect of Daiji, rather than an evil twin or whatever… I don’t think that was a thing we needed to learn? I feel like that’s a huge part of Daiji’s arc from Revice, and the introduction of Eviltytlive is built on the idea that Daiji now sees the value and necessity of Kagerou in his life. I don’t know why Revice Forward thought we needed to hear that lesson all over again, alongside Wakabayashi yet again becoming a Force Ghost to tell Hiromi the same lesson he learned back on the Revice TV show, but I guess it fits alongside this film’s use of so much footage from Revice.

Feels that there's more to show regarding how Kagerou acts as one of the "good guys" now, he really keeps his obnoxious personality, throwing insults left and right, albeit he had a lil more concern regarding Rumi's fate at the end. Albeit I don't really understand what pushes him to have more feelings to others than before, like using his secret plan to help Daiji and Hiromi, perhaps it's to boast about how he's better than Daiji and rub it in his face. It feels as if Daiji took his "revenge" to have him keep Kagerou in the dark regarding his plan for that, albeit perhaps the audience would still mock Daiji as the lame one compared to Kagerou.