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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Crazy Theory: Daichi is not Nadge. I'll explain now. He became Jamato and, most likely, according to the method of Archimedes (for we have not seen others). That is, it is Jamato with Daichi's memory and consciousness. But Archimedel believed that Jamato could develop to such an extent that they would become independent and replace people. So maybe it's still true and the current Jamato-Daichi is a separate person and received only the memory of the original? Of course, the responsibility for the Knowledge Tree is entirely on him, but this can be attributed to the negative influence of the original.

I don't know what'd be that purpose tbh, because Daichi is never shown to be dead (and it was a common misconception that eliminated means dead, when it's proven time to time again it's not).

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Well, back to regular viewing. First, on the previous episodes: I am sincerely surprised that Daichi was forgiven and was not even forced to let everyone go from his Tree of Knowledge. Apparently, the happiness of these people can wait. Also: Did Jitt just beat up PunkJack (not even that hard) and let him go? Even though he freed Tsumuri? I mean, it's also a show where a much less aggressive Gamemaster turned him into a kamikaze zombie for a lot less. And PunkJack, already knowing where Jitt's base is, didn't show up there with the other riders for the final battle? Although here I can explain that they were waiting for the return of Ace.

It's unknown what'd they pull later, and I don't believe that Daichi is redeemed for now, he'd be like Kuroto, Evolt, or Orteca in Battle Familia, of only doing things to benefit him that involves siding with the protagonists (hmm... Ex-Aid also had the ending where they're working to release people from Game Over, of which got partially ruined by Masamune who commits suicide to spite them). I hope that perhaps the Tree of Knowledge part would be more of a conflict later with Daichi viewing it as his pride, the only reason why he agrees to work with the protagonists later, to take his tree back from Beroba, he piroritizes his invention above anything else. There are no time limit for freeing the people in his Tree though, not everything has to be done in quickly hasty way (which also leads to agreeing with extremist plan or complaining about someone that isn't helped yet for now like donating money to someone else instead of what's "needed").

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I don't know if it's just a translation thing, but I'm kind of confused by Daichi's characterization.
At first they said the reason he was becoming less evil was because, by consuming memories from the fruit of the tree of life, he by proxy absorbed their moral compass as well. Which made sense.
But then the world was reset, and he lost those memories. Shouldn't that mean he would've reverted back to how he was prior?

And now he's not evil because he feels he can learn more via the mundanities of life through observing Keiwa and his sister?
Like, I'm not against a redemption arc (And this one isn't anywhere near as bad as Thouser's), but I'm just kind of confused as to where all this is coming from. Like I said, though, it could just be a translation thing.

Daichi forgot those memories, but it's not like he didn't remember that he used to have those, and he also knows he got them again after Ace's reset. While losing those memories, he remembers that he used to have Sara and the other captive's memories, thus their influence is already planted to him even if those memories are gone, thus he still has learned about the concept of happiness and joy. Though I still don't think that this is a redemption arc and it's more like Kuroto (or Evolt or Orteca in Battle Familia), them working with the good guys for their own benefit, Kuroto for revenge against the bad guys, and Daichi to continue his interest of human thinking, why'd you think this is better than Gai's? As I thought the reason why Gai's is so terrible is how, they're redeeming someone who has crime list as severe as those who are already irredeemable (in pure evil category), like Banno, Namba, Isaac, etc.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

The PunkJack Special showed that the idea of ​​a "life without desires" for losing riders is wrong. They lose a specific desire they have made, but they can have or acquire others. In principle, it was noticeable even by Keiwa, because he wanted to win the lottery, and this is quite a desire. And considering how many bad things you can come up with, I doubt that the rascals would improve. Rather, they just changed the style.

It's just a suggestion, albeit perhaps no for the ones that rob others' happiness like the DGP does. Ofc it's not guaranteed that it'd be successful, but it's worth trying for something that doesn't cause bloodshed, and if they're still evil then you'd work again to stop them. There are villains that can become nice when got hit with amnesia, like for example, Rook from Kiva, got refered as "Dai-chan".

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Originally Posted by PortalTron

Seriously, this arc was a bit of the breaking point for me in the show. Why would a bunch of gangsters immediately attack and kill someone after being revived? Like, even if they were revived with memories of what happened in the DGP up until that point, there was literally no reason for them to attack anyone yet as the DGP specifically had rules about attacking anything other than a Jyamato. Even weirder is how they would have had the means to attack anyone, as they would be regular people without belts. Except, if they were brought back with their belts, wouldn't literally every other Rider who died have them as well? Given the reaction to both Danpan and a lesser extant Merry, Riders who would outright attack another player was a rare occurrence, and would have been disqualified before having the change to get killed in the DGP, so how could any actually murderous rider have any odds of overcoming literal hundreds of other Riders who, you know, don't want to die? Plus, the Gang Riders would be completely unarmed (who knows where they got weapon buckles), but if they were revived with their previous gear, Letter would have Propeller, Shirowe and Ginpen would have Arrow, and Togetchi would have Zombie. A lot better odds than just Armed Hammer or Armed Chain Array.

Because not everything about Rider fighting is playing a DGP game? (albeit the people there often refer to anything as a game). Perhaps this is a common misconception regarding Geats viewers. Not everything about Rider fighting in this series is just playing game rounds to win and get a wish. While the JGP is a game done by Beroba for Jamatos to compete, the Riders like the core trio only fight because they want to, to protect people from the Jamato attacks, as in real Kamen Riders would, they just happen to be given bonuses for the Jamatos, likely so that they can hinder the JGP less to keep attacking people. Ace refers to his own group as his own DGP now, but there's nothing about it in common with the usual DGP of Ace not forcing the Riders to join, but not rewarding them, and the purpose if it being simply to protect people from Jamatos.

And don't you even know that the DGP is on hold for now? Which is the premise where the management wants to turn Tsumuri (or Ace) into the next Goddess so that they can hold the DGP again in other era. The Riders like Turbon are simply abusing their powers to cause havoc for their own satisfaction (when bad guys are given superpowers they can use it to wreak havoc, and they can get away like breaking out prisons with it - why Ouja keeps escaping from prison). Regarding hundreds of other Riders, it's unknown if perhaps Zitt is the one who made the wish turn out this way to screw over Keiwa (bad end for him) and use him as his pawn....

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Originally Posted by MKDremare

I'll be honest, I think it would've been equally strange if she just hugged Neon without saying a thing considering how Neon at that point has been viewing herself and her relationship with other people, especially her parents. Because another part is just Neon not realizing that she is loved because of how long she hadn't been outright told it before. And ever since finding out the truth about her origins, she hadn't thought she was capable of being loved because of it. Nor has she been really able to recognize it either.

This isn't a case of the author not trusting the audience, this is a case of a character affirming the truth of their words to another, both of whom are currently at an emotional high at the moment. I feel like that reunion at the hospital would need affirmative dialogue like that between characters because Neon was someone who wanted and needed to be explicitly told that her parents truly love her after realizing it.

Obviously those who refuse to acknowledge the deeper introspection of something they view as superficial, will downplay it like claiming she should just download Tinder or something (of which, even ignoring that love isn't only romantic that it's already established in the show too, not just headcanon), then get confused when they're working on what's established while blaming the show. The opinions of the haters aren't always the right one with those who defend it being sheeps who can't think objectively.... getting sick if criticism or outright badmouthing are the only ones that is considered right and honest, with positive saying being considered sugarcoating (often the view of edgy assholes in these medias too, of which often got approved irl too). Though you also need to not think that the parents always loved her and "treated her well all this time" with Neon not tealizing it, because they're shitty parents, but got inspired by Neon's actions of keep giving "true love" to others, to make amends to her and show her actual love (the root of why she needs to be explicitly told of being loved, her abusive upbringing, in opposite extremes for both).