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Kamen Rider Gotchard Episode 10- "Kyoto On Fire!" Discussion
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11-23-2023, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by
Mesnick
She lives and works in Kyoto, so it would be strange if she unexpectedly moved to Tokyo. I would bet that she will either appear in passing and briefly; or will be added to the main cast after five to ten episodes, when you can pretend that something in her life has seriously changed.
Yeah, I can imagine her appearing briefly in a few episodes to remind people that she exists and hopefully develop her relationship with Kajiki, depending on whenever she has time to visit Tokyo. But I guess long-distance relationships are more viable in Japan, due to bullet trains.
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
This is interesting, because if any Chemy can amplify even the tiniest bad intention in a person's psyche, then the AA/AU members should be very well trained to restrain their mind to avoid getting bonded with a Chemy. It'd be very funny if Spanner, Rinne, Renge, or Sabimaru is unintentionally transformed into a Malgam when handling an RCC. Haha.
I presume the sealing function of Ride Chemy Cards also prevents Chemies from accidentally leaking in to their emotions. We did see Bolt merge with Hawkstar though, so it seems that the alchemists do need some level of restraint around unsealed Chemies, hence why the Alchemy Academy are so strict about the rules.
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
You asked, "Who else may have had their lives potentially made worse by Alchemy Academy?". The answer is probably
Houtarou
and
his mom
, like I mentioned
here
. Their lives could've probably been messed up by AA/AU way before the story even began. The writers
still
have not revealed
Houtarou's dad's face and name
. This could be another potential plot twist, probably revealed in episode 20-25 to build up the debut of Gotchard's super form/second upgrade form in episode 25-27. No,
not
Super Gotchard. Haha.
This is certainly more plausible now that we know exactly what the memory loss spell is capable of. It's possible that the father even erased their memories personally to protect them from whatever dangerous secret alchemy he might be involved with.
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
The next female Chemies seems to be Bountybunny (Animal 5) and Buglesia (Plant 8). I predict that Bountybunny will have a foxy/cunning personality, which actually suits Flayrose's voice better. Buglesia seems to be a motherly type Chemy. Ninetail (Occult 9, the one that I predicted would be used by Rinne) and Kinkiravenus (Cosmic 2) are several other candidates. Kinkiravenus could even be a Chemy in the form of an actual beautiful woman (Yay! Another new cutie!), because a Chemy can take the form of anything.
Anything
, including humans. It'd be better if she could actually speak like humans do. +1.000 bonus points if a human character (Sabimaru? Or, preferably, the most unlikely one: Spanner) become infatuated with her and become this season's Tsurugi Kamishiro. Haha.
Yeah, I was thinking Bountybunny as well. I see her as kind of like Kiryu Sento as a girl.
Buglesia also makes sense, as the petals resemble a long dress. Hard to judge the Chemies we haven't seen yet, but it's true that Kinkiravenus' namesake (well, the namesake's namesake) is a Greco-Roman goddess, which would also apply to Gaiard, so I could imagine them as potentially female depending on how they look. If there's a human-shaped Chemy though, I think they'll be #101. Might even be Rinne.
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
So far, I haven't seen anyone on the internet or real life, in all the languages that I can understand, that has been able to guess the major direction of Gotchard's story. Gotchard's main plot is still a complete mystery to me. Or maybe there's a viewer that is able to guess it yet do not share his hypothesis with the public. I think that that's the time-tested beauty of simplicity: Complex structures and unpredictability do not necessarily come from bloated components, complicated rules, and convoluted planning. It's pretty much the complete opposite: Complex structures can rise organically from very few simple rules that interact with each other.
Agreed. Takahashi always has an ambitious vision for a big story, but never for a long story, which is required of the KR format. For some reason, Toei have allowed him twice to write a whole show without any secondary writers, even though it's pretty clear that he doesn't have the stamina of Inoue. Behind the scenes, even Takebe was like, "dude, slow down!", when Takahashi's vision for Keiwa's arc was moving too quickly. Hasegawa has experience carrying a story with Saber, while Fukuda was tasked with writing Trio of Deep Sin, so I have faith in Gotchard's staff to maintain the momentum.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Latepost due to being ill before.
Welcome back.
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DreadBringer
I actually thought the opposite of where, the relationship may won't last even without Chemy law due to Hijiri likely being one-off, so there should be a reason for them to break off (I'd be afraid that it'd be just lowkey "loser" Kajiki not being on Hijiri's league.... for Faiz, I'd prefer if Keitaro heard about Yuka's death rather than acting as he's being dumped... at least it doesn't feel like it's Keitaro's fault for being cut off from Yuka), which'd explain about (albeit latest episode had Kajiki approaching Hijiri to talk about the UFO).
I'd hope that Kajiki wouldn't be dismissed anymore as a loser just for being a nerdy high school student, since he was still popular enough to get his name in Chojo Wakusei and remembered by Hijiri. But yeah, it's sad what happened to Keitarou. He deserved to know the truth about Yuka, but maybe that would've made him suffer even more than thinking he got abandoned. I don't envy Takumi being put in that position and Shoutarou and Haruto have also lied about a loved one's death, believing it was the lesser of two evils.
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DreadBringer
I already know that Geats fanatics who do that are those who subscribe to quite popular take that a show must be dark and angsty to be good, and lighthearted & "childish" stuff are bad. Though the ones who like Gotchard are also those who mercilessly dunk on Geats while also generally prefering lighter shows like Saber as well, typically the ones who bring up about "spirit of Kamen Rider" the most.
The part about bringing up the "spirit of Kamen Rider" totally sounds like me, haha. Generally though, I think I'm pretty fair to Geats, giving it both praise and criticism where I deem appropriate. Even the show itself disagrees with Geats fanatics, like those who proudly identify as Kekeras and support his ideals without a hint of irony, while selectively ignoring the other sponsor-related aspects of their personalities. Fortunately, these are likely a vocal minority, as I know there are many healthy Geats fans who like it for the right reasons and if some of them happen to dislike Gotchard, at least it can be for their own reasons instead of jumping on the "it's not Geats" bandwagon. I agree that it's okay for people to like (or even dislike) both, instead of the absurd concept that you can only like one or the other.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I'm against the notion that moral and lessons can only exist in lighter shows where darker shows are just edgy and horrible for the sake of it, even if it's something appreciated for Gotchard fans who hate Geats. Like even if characters display similar behavior, there's a double standard view of different mediums, between lighter and darker stuff. They excuse bad behavior from the former as a "good moral" show and do everything they can to make the darker ones, "senseless depraved fantasy" look bad.
I do think some dark shows can fit the "senseless depraved fantasy" description. But like you brought up before, my favorite Faiz and least favorite (before Revice took that dishonor) Gaim were both dark, so it's all about the execution. I don't mind if a show is light or dark or whatever, as long as the tone is consistent and the characters' actions maintain my suspension of disbelief, regardless of the plot. Despite being lighthearted, Gotchard can take itself seriously when necessary and I like that. You also mentioned before that bad behavior can be dismissed as schadenfreude, like Reika's abuse in Saber which I called out as I don't want to see sympathetic characters put in danger of severe injury unless the show treats it seriously. I want the action to be proportionate to the character receiving it. Anyway, this shows that even black comedy, usually associated with dark, can also show up in lighthearted works.
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DreadBringer
Though previous 2 Reiwa shows are actually lighthearted? Both Saber and Revice, though Revice had some brutal showings like Orteca's murders.
Revice has dark topics like abuse and loneliness, but depicts them in a "lighthearted" way that trivializes the emotions. The characters get over their problems too easily, due to the Igarashi siblings yelling at them enough times, as Kinoshita likely doesn't care enough to focus on inconvenient things that slow down the plot.
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