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Kamen Rider Gotchard Episode 11- "Catch A Spy- Rider Disqualified?!" Discussion
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11-29-2023, 11:40 AM
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Zolda
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Join Date: Nov 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Common anti-hero term misuse to conflate that with villainy.
Starter villains aren't
necessarily
actual villains. They're often shown as major antagonists who foil the protagonists journey in earlier arcs. They can develop into anti-heroes (Heart, Horobi, etc) or even heroes (Chase, Alain, Parad, Gentoku Himuro, etc).
It was clear from the beginning that Oren was a disgruntled old man who thought that Beat Riders were just deadbeat kids who contributed nothing to society. He didn't oppose Kouta and the others out of malice. The actual starter villain in Gaim is Sid.
That could be the case with Licht here. His opposition toward Houtarou could be due to his position as an AU top brass. His philosophy of excellence and his high standards don't fit well with Houtarou's naive optimism, which is displayed in his attitude toward Chemies and fighting style. If his attitude and actions are put into context and combined with Spanner's and Minato's suspicion about the existence of a spy or spies inside the AU, then his attitude and actions
do
look villainous and more suspicious, for example when he straightforwardly demanded the Gotchardriver from Houtarou. His attitude and actions don't look villainous if there's no suspicion about spies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Yet you show bleak view of humanity if it's regarding Geats, that humans being selfish and destructive or life being unfair (e.g. give and take) should be accepted and excused as cold fact in life rather than trying hard enough to achieve something better and reach more ideal possibilities.
"Life is unfair" (+ "deal with it") is often what people abuse to go out of their way to make things unfair and rationalize their insensitive and unsympathetic behavior, what makes people normalize shitty behavior for those who buy their BS.
Whaaattt??? When and where did I say that "humans being selfish and destructive or life being unfair (e.g. give and take) should be accepted and excused as cold fact in life rather than trying hard enough to achieve something better and reach more ideal possibilities"? Show me exactly where I made that statement. I've never made the statement you mentioned, be it explicitly nor implicitly.
Of course
I will help those who can't help themselves.
Of course
I will help my families or friends when their rights are violated by criminals.
Of course
I will do everything I can possibly, humanly do to help the society oppose a totalitarian dictator.
How did you come to the conclusion that I would let bad things happen to people and just stand here and do nothing? Smh. What a faulty reasoning.
I believe every person has the strength to fight for themselves. I will give help to those who
do
need help. I will give help to those who
can't
help themselves. I will give help when it's
actually
needed. If I give help to those who don't even need help, then it means I'm insulting their ability to stand for themselves. It means I'm treating them like I'm treating weak toddlers who can't defend themselves. An unneeded, unsolicited "help" is the ultimate insult to a person's agency. Normal, decent people have a high standard of ethics, thus they need to consider the whole context before intervening in other people's problems. Normal, decent people don't intervene in other people's petty, mundane problems.
Humanity already has laws to deal with and punish its members who cause problems. Humanity is strong. Humanity can regulate itself. Humanity doesn't need a divine, all-powerful, yet nosy, moralistic, self-righteous busybody like Ace Ukiyo to regulate their behavior and solve all their problems. See the difference? See the stark difference between what I'm saying and what
you think
I'm saying?
So far, many of your comments exhibit a
severe
inability to understand context. It seems like you have this naive, childish, petty, I'm-the-hero/protagonist, me-against-the-world, black-or-white mentality. You should watch Kamen Rider Fourze episode 23-24 to see how this type of mentality is not only detrimental to society, but to yourself as well.
If you choose to live your life in accordance with such an extreme, rigid, context-blind, black-or-white mentality, then go ahead. Your life, your choice, your consequence. Let time do its work and let reality be the judge. See for yourself whether society commends you or shuns you. See for yourself whether people are attracted to you or are avoiding you. Don't be surprised when one day, reality comes knocking on your door and gives you a
very
rude awakening. When it happens, you won't be able to say "Nobody warned me!" because that schmuck Zolda over at Tokunation had warned you several times.
Oh, and that sentence you quoted should be accompanied with an attached picture of Takeru Tenkuji (
https://www.tokunation.com/forums/at...1&d=1700950406
). I'm not sure why it disappeared. It's probably because I uploaded the attachment in another tab. Let me repost it below.
https://www.tokunation.com/forums/at...1&d=1701270269
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