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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

For the Dark Sisters, it may be more common than just what Rinne points out here. Hermann Hesse quotes "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us". Like bullies tormenting nerds because they can't comprehend wanting to read like those, likely stemming from them being pushed hard to read and turning to hate reading, but deep down wishes to be like the nerds.

Yeah, projection is pretty common. Those bullies would want to be seen as strong and cool by oppressing the weak nerds, but deep down, they probably envy the nerds' strength of will for freely doing what they love and having actually meaningful friendships. Much like us niche Tokusatsu fans having to deal with obnoxious people who boast about their more popular and therefore "superior" hobbies, it's easy to see which side is more insecure and pathetic. Sadly, even nerds can bully other nerds, in an attempt to be seen as the least lame and closer to the cool clique. Like Yosuke tearing Tamaki's card.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

How is tsundere not redeeming quality in this case as, "dere" means sweet which sounds like good traits of someone they conceal? For Lachesis, by this I wouldn't want for her to be viewed as, caring equally about Supana and Clotho just has her unique way of expressing it to Supana, and thus because she views him equally to Clotho, she doesn't actually attack or do anything wrong to Supana she's just being good to him and get misunderstood by him, or even worse than if she targets him out of pure hatred - which'd be what I think of opposing this association. It's just one example, but this is also what's used to justify villains, insisting that them consistently targeting said one person isn't bad particularly if the outcome is them becoming better or overcoming them (being a "mentor") as a result.

Another example of the duality of emotions, that sweet is subjective. Like, if you take the dere out of Olteca, then he'd have no reason to target Yosuke, since the whole point of that was to incur an emotional response from Tamaki. Lachesis' dere side is a little healthier though, but yeah, she clearly cares more about her older sisters' welfare than Spanner's, considering how she as Dread performed a finisher that she thought might kill him. However, his persistence may increase Lachesis' respect for him from now on. Tsundere is a spectrum after all, with varying levels of the two traits. Takes time for the dere side to develop.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

What I'm talking about is that it's not limited to Ghost and Saber, but seemingly just, any lighthearted shows. So, it reads to me that you'd insist the shows lighthearted and... I also got wrong prediction about you, like thinking you'd far prefer Den-O among Kobayashi shows and maybe placing it high up too. I mean I get this because I also predicted that people like Kurona will like Ghost and Saber (and it's right, though not immediately for Ghost), due to her not vibing with darker shows like Ryuki or Faiz. Speaking of those, though you do acknowledge the tropes on those shows, Ryuki'd be bashed by this for making Riders fight each other, and get flak from people like Layton or dreamcastegirl.

Well, the Zeronos memory time nonsense probably got Den-O demoted a few ranks. I used to confidently declare it as my favorite Kobayashi Rider show, but after my recent re-evaluation, I've decided that Ryuki is marginally better, although Den-O still wins in characters and comedy. I guess I just don't judge shows based only on tone, which is why there's a mix of light and dark in my top 5 Rider shows. True that Ryuki was controversial for pretty much inventing the Rider VS Rider trope, but I appreciated how it used that to show the heroic quality of Kamen Rider in a new light, after the generic villains from Kuuga and Agito that existed to get beaten up. I think Ryuki seriously innovated the franchise for the Heisei Era, in a way that endures in to Reiwa.