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04-12-2024, 11:03 AM
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For example, one critique I've read is "Sagara only helps Kota." And while sure, Sagara's' claims that he's neutral is total crap, he actually pushes alot more people forward than just Kota. He outright perpetuates the Beat Riders competition, he informs Ryoma about the Golden Fruit, and he directly traps Mai into her role as the Lady of the Beginnings. While he's full of it in claiming he's only a watcher, Kota isn't the "only" one he influences.
Sagara is a pretentious moron. When Kouta wins the fruit, Sagara's all like, "okay now be a good space god and destroy the world please", like seriously, this guy clearly hasn't been paying attention if that's how he expected this to go. Even after Kouta obviously refuses, Sagara tells him to create a prosperous new world, like, why does he still think he has any power over Kouta's actions? Nobody here cares what Sagara's saying! He's dumber than Swartz and only a few brain cells smarter than Gif!
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Meanwhile, on the complimentary side of things, many people praise Gaim for being "the darkest story in Rider/toku."
This is exactly one of the reasons why I criticize it though. Like, did you know that Zack was originally planned to be killed by Kaito instead of only having his Driver busted? Fortunately, he was a popular character so Takebe vetoed Urobuchi, similar to how Yukimi was spared in Revice. Maybe there are darker stories than this, such as Ryuki, but there are typically lighter characters to balance it out. There wasn't really anybody in Gaim who was like, "I'm going to make this better". Even in a world of sugar and rainbows, if the characters are all cynics, then the world will feel like that as well.
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But in terms of Riders I do gotta give it to Kaito. Even if his views can be seen as contradictory at times, he's always entertaining to watch, and the idea of the Secondary Rider becoming the final boss by the end is in itself really cool.
Oh, so you consider Kaito the final boss instead of Teenage Girl Kougane.... I guess I can't blame you for that.
I used to dislike Gaim VS Balon a lot due to how killing Kaito doesn't feel like a heroic outcome. Now, well, actually I still kind of dislike it, but I recall DreadBringer made a good point that Kaito's lack of development isn't Kouta's fault. That's what annoys me about Kaito, that his cynical philosophy is pretty much the same from start to end and he won't be persuaded otherwise unless someone literally kills him to prevent him from committing genocide.
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I give it a solid 3/6, and the song I now associate with it is
"Way Down We Go"
by Mandrazo.
An apt description of where Mitsuzane will be going.
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DreamSword
Next time I feel like Rider, well, this one's not up to me. The friend I usually watch these shows with really wants to revisit Drive, so that's next. From what I understand it's apparently the worst Rider show ever until it hits the halfway mark, or something. Sounds interesting.
All you need is Drive!
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