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Kamen Rider Gotchard Episode 47- "Big Clash! Houtaro VS Supana!" Discussion
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08-10-2024, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
After he's defeated in his fight against Houtarou, Spanner says @ 19:06 that he's still going the separate way. His Driver is seemingly damaged beyond repair. I think that he'll be able to use his black flame power to repair it in episode 48 or 49, and then transforms into a new form (berserker form? kaijin form?) of KR Valvarad that purely uses his black flame power and requires no RCC's.
Feels like this is setup for some kind of Valvarad V-Cinema, where we may find out the reason for him having the black flame.
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Originally Posted by
toughfighter83
im getting the feeling that something bad is going to happen to houtarou in episode 49 or 48, just from when houtarou saved rinnie from death during the daybreak ark, he's changed time and now it's probably going to be him that takes the sacrifice.
because we just seen alot of rider deaths during the end game in reiwa era especially resent geats
But it could also be like Touma and Ace, whose sacrifices were temporary as they were able to use their powers to come back in the end. Houtarou wants everybody to believe in his power to create a world of harmony without losing anything, so I'll have faith in him as well.
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DreadBringer
Some pointed out that Supana's plan was stupid because Kamen Riders need Chemies... and they actually addressed it in this episode, which explains Supana's real plan. The genocide of the Chemies remain, but as a way to transmute himself and beat Abyssail Kings, sounds like George in the later parts of Revice, as he aimed to eliminate all superpowers from the world, even at the cost of innocent lives (the Chemies).
I hadn't considered that Spanner could simply use his black flame to subjugate the Chemies' will. So his plan makes sense after all, but still comes at an unacceptable cost.
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DreadBringer
In the eventual clash, Rainbow Gotchard didn't destroy Valvarad as hard as Tycoon Bujin Sword did to Buffa Zombie, though on equal footing (both on base form), Houtaro is now able to defeat Supana. However, as usual, Houtaro doesn't thoroughly explain why Supana's path is wrong, other than urging them to stick together, like how humans (as Houtaro has clearly encountered, like those thugs) can be just awful rather than solely blaming Chemies, and that addressing human issues is equally important. Houtaro simply shares his desires, much like in Revice when Ikki confronted Daiji, expressing his wish for everyone's happiness.
Similar to Ultimate Revi VS Holy Live, this is also a blue Rider VS pink Rider fight, except the alignments here are reversed. Spanner's plan is like Kento's plan to seal the Seiken Swords. The result would be to defeat the villain and save humanity, (unlike Daiji's), but Houtarou admits that he's selfish and refuses to give up on his friends, which I think is admirable and courageous, a hero who strives for the best case scenario while his rival is resigned to a terrible compromise of despair and loss. Houtarou's idealism reminds Spanner of his past self, so it's like Spanner is fighting against his "former weakness", which actually turns out to be stronger than him. Houtarou's here to prove that he's not someone who only preaches about his Gotcha, but is determined to protect it with his fists as well, which even gets a small acknowledgement from Spanner.
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DreadBringer
It was unexpected to see Geryon, who appears to be a villain of the Isaac, Orteca, or Agariyama type, genuinely loving Atropos as a daughter.
Well, even Olteca seems to feel sentimental about Tamaki and Aguilera. Some villains are just dishonest about their feelings like that, or were conditioned to react destructively to those feelings. Houtarou claimed that the world of gold was Geryon's Gotcha, but looks like Atropos is even more valuable to him than that. Shows that a life is invaluable, worth more than an inordinate amount of gold.
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Mesnick
Clotho apparently decided that Galijah was a better ally than Geryon. And the scriptwriters decided that ropes or handcuffs were too cruel for a child and tied Atropos with a red ribbon. Galijah also confirmed that the basis of Atropos is Rinne. Her plan is to drain the life from the original into the doll, turning it into an obedient super-kaijin.
Gaelijah can divine fate, so this could be a reference to the
red thread of fate
, which has now tethered Rinne to Atropos.
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