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Kamen Rider GAVV Episode 1: "A Snack Kamen Rider?!" Discussion
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09-06-2024, 06:25 AM
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Mesnick
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For primary Riders it's definitely unusual, as only Tendou and Tsukasa are similar type.
Now it's off topic, which belongs in "General Rider's Thoughts", but since we're talking about it, I think that Tsukasa and Ace are actually the most different riders in the entire franchise. Ace is as goal-oriented as possible, while for Tsukasa only the path is important, and the goal, in principle, may be absent. Ace is self-confident, while Tsukasa is narcissistic. When Keiwa asked the riders to save his sister, Ace became outraged and yelled at him. When Kaito refused to save Natsumi, Tsukasa punched him. The latter is especially eloquent, since editing masters can simply glue these two scenes together, cutting out Tacoon and Di-End, thus getting a confrontation between Decade and Geats. Plus, how can you imagine Ace falling victim to Natsumi's super move?
What these two riders have in common is only an initial negative impression, and that has a different reason. Ace goes towards a goal that, despite all his talents, he has not been able to achieve for 2000 years. Tsukasa is just a "passing Kamen Rider". The same episodes where Apollo Geist put Natsumi in a coma show the difference well. Even in later episodes, when Neon and Tsumuri gets kidnapped or Sara ends up inside a tree, Ace remains the same competent and aloof person. While Tsukasa runs around the city almost crying, pushing away those who want to help and asking for help from those who don't want it.
Because the narcissistic asshole Decade is just a mask for casual acquaintances, so that they won?t be too sad when he leaves. And Ace, despite all the deception, shows his nature quite early. And, even though he has a lot of positive qualities, the negative ones are more noticeable.
Tendou is not quite the opposite, but his differences are also noticeable. The most obvious: during Jamatoball he would announce:
And in general, those who say that Tendou is similar to Ace should reconsider Kabuto and remember how capricious MC Tendou was. Do you think he would agree to play in DGP for more than a couple of episodes? And even then, each mission would then begin with Tendou declaring that he would not take part in them. After which he would go to feed the girl Juka, the rest of the riders would lose, they would come to ask him for help, he would refuse, and then still come at the most crucial moment. But in general, this is unlikely, because my grandmother probably said that if someone promises to fulfill your wishes in exchange for services, then they will deceive you. So Tendou would most likely just steal the driver and core id and run away.
The main difference between Tendou and Ace is that Ace is an empathic egoist. That is, he puts his own desires first, but at the same time recognizes the value of the desires of others. At the same time, Tendou clearly values the wishes of Juki, Hiyori, and perhaps even Kagami above his own. But, at the same time, he is egocentric and therefore will strive to realize not so much their desires as his understanding of their desires. And this completely contradicts Ace?s worldview, which recognizes all desires (except for some controversial cases) and values the will to fight for them.
Plus, we must admit that Tendou and Tsukasa have a much better sense of humor than Ace. Comedy is an important part of these shows and even the darkest of them, so it's worth noting that animal puns never made anyone but Ace laugh.
If Ace really resembles anyone, it is, IMHO, Kaito Kumon. Both of them initially value only the opinion of the strong, but at the same time recognize the need to help the weak. Yes, Ace is more friendly and pleasant, but this can be attributed to more (much more!) life experience. Moreover, he can also be harsh and rude, and Kaito sometimes manages to charm people (Zack, Mai, Yoko, partially Kouta). The difference between them is that, having found himself close to divine power, Ace decides to make all people happy, and Kaito comes to everyone?s favorite maniac: ?Only the dead do not suffer.? But this is mostly due to their different roles in their respective shows.
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like how some may wish bad things on those who don't like Gentaro
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Oh, these people would be so in 2011!
But, let's be honest, on those rare occasions when someone doesn't like Gentaro (although, as we already discussed, few people call him their favorite rider), they don't like him for his loudness, stupidity and monotony of solutions to problems, and not for the light tone and optimism. I'm sure a dark show with the main character being a stupid, loud schoolboy would irritate viewers much more. Actually, the second season of Amazons is partial confirmation of this.
Plus, if we talk about Japan, Gentaro may also not like the fact that his appearance is clearly a school bully, but at the same time he does not have any of their shortcomings. In this way, he seems to justify characters similar to him to the target audience. That is, Gentaro's image is clearly inspired by the Crows-Zero franchise:
In principle, he is more than just inspired: he looks like someone kicked out of Suzuran for being too friendly. And it?s unlikely that parents would want their children to admire such guys.
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