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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 5- "The Memories Are Painful!" Discussion
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09-29-2024, 01:08 AM
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Zolda
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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My hypothesis last week
here
and several hours ago
here
are proven to be quite correct within the first 2 minutes of this episode. Shouma was saved by a Granute with whale motif (not crocodile/alligator) named Dente Stomach, who is a high-ranking Stomach family member and was a trusted associate of Bouche aka Father Stomach/Goat Granute/Shouma's dad. Dente was actually Bouche's uncle, not Shouma's. He was the one who modified Shouma's Gavv into the red variant, likely by adding mechanical parts to it. All of his body parts are still kaijin, not only his head, quite different if compared to the Stomach siblings who have kaijin heads but human bodies. The weird thing is that he's been living like a destitute sage inside a cave, unlike the other Granutes of the week who've seemingly integrated with the human society. A brilliant scientist like him could make a fortune in the human world. It'd be interesting if there are indeed other Granutes who prosper and choose to live peacefully in the human world and refuse to be treated as Stomach corporation's lap dogs.
Shita and Jeebh say @ 03:24 that Shouma was weak as a kid, and the operation performed by Dente was done to strengthen his Gavv. Although they initially say that it bore no fruit, then they suspect that the success of the operation has actually just been recently shown, likely referring to the ability of Shouma's red Gavv to produce Gochizous by eating human foods. Shita says that Dente was the scientist who created the Hitopress process and other processes related to the creation of Yamikashi/Dark Snacks. Jeebh says that Dente was the mentor of Nyelve in science. This dialogue between them looks kinda funny because it's an obvious infodump. I mean, why would they recite pieces of information they've already known, unless it's done to dispense the information to the viewers. A flashback scene is a better way to inform the viewers. Show, don't tell. It seems like the writers are going full throttle on dispensing too many pieces of information in every episode. They should be careful not to waste ammo
this
early, or the story will lose steam reeeeeeally quickly.
Lango says @ 04:18 that he has a mission to change the Stomach corporation. By using the Dark Snack technology created by Dente, he's planning to conquer the Granute society. It seems like he has some kind of political aspiration. It'd be interesting if there's another faction within the Granute society that oppose the Stomach family. It'd be even more interesting if that other faction also manufactures their own version of Dark Snacks (and Rider system) to compete with Stomach's. People never rise to power easily without contenders. There must be other people who are also vying for the same position.
In the scene @ 04:30 it's shown that a Stomach's field agent is selling snacks to the Granutes in their world. Those snacks that are sold in the open are very likely viewed as mere ordinary snacks within the Granutes' legal system. Another Granute comes and is suspiciously purchasing a box of Dark Snacks, implying that Dark Snacks aren't legally sold. Lango says that Dark Snacks are only popular within the underworld, kinda like the Gaia Memories in KR W. He's concerned that due to its illegal and murky nature, Dark Snacks might be cracked down by the Granute government. He might be planning to get the majority of Granute population, especially the wealthy ones like he says @ 05:00 and stated in episode 2 @ 04:22, to get addicted to the Dark Snacks so that he'll gain enough political power to legalize it and further consolidate the Stomach's family power within the Granute society. This dialogue between Lango and Shita/Jeebh is also another obvious infodump. I mean, why would Lango retell and reelaborate his master plan to Shita/Jeebh who are supposed to already know it, unless he's doing it simply to inform the viewers.
Like I hypothesized last week
here
, in the scene @ 05:14 it's shown that Stomach's field agents are indeed the minions created by the Stomach siblings. Agents are to the Stomach siblings like Gochizous are to Shouma.
Dente says @ 07:51 that he was asked by Bouche to modify Shouma's weak Gavv because it couldn't create minions/agents unlike the Stomach's. His inital attempts failed, and he decided to settle in the human world to research humans and find what could strengthen Shouma's weak Gavv. As he says @ 09:17, he likely found out that human's snacks are what was able to strengthen Shouma's Gavv and awaken its powers. He didn't only research human's snacks, but
also
got hooked on it, which was what upgraded his kaijin form to a full one, not only the head. The reason why all Granutes of the week so far have a full kaijin body is because they've eaten human's foods. If Granutes can actually eat human's foods, then what do they eat in the Granute world? If they eat the animals and plants of the Granute world, then the Dark Snacks are likely just expensive, novelty, recreational foods for those who have enough money.
Shouma says @ 09:50 that Bouche aka Father Stomach kept him and his mom at the Stomach mansion. Dente says that Bouche, who was starting to grow fond of humans, did it to protect Shouma and his mom from being targeted as humans spices by Lango et al and their agents. Dente says that Bouche was intentionally making them suffer to make them unattractive as human spices. But, if Bouche
actually
cared about Shouma and his mom, then why didn't he simply let them go and transfer them back to the human world, instead of house arresting them in the Stomach mansion and keeping them like pets? He could've simply commanded his agents and Granutes in the human world to white list and never kidnap Shouma and his mom. Normal people in the position of Shouma and his mom would've definitely gone crazy and become very mentally disturbed, especially Shouma who had never ventured beyond the Stomach mansion. Very very
very
weird and irrational decision by Bouche, unless he's a very short-sighted person and or a 99% abusive psychopath. It feels like he did it simply because the writers needed him to do it to create the plot of this show. There goes my respect for Father Stomach.
Hanto defends Shouma/KR Gavv @ 20:04, which means that the opposite could happen in later episodes. He could have a serious conflict with Shouma later, which perhaps will have something to do with the kidnapping of his mom 18 years ago. Bouche/Father Stomach is revealed to be Goat Granute, so the Wolf Granute is likely another Granute. Bouche/Father Stomach/Goat Granute also looked like the Stomach siblings and Dente, where his mouth was completely sealed, unlike the Wolf Granute who had an exposed mouth. This means that the Wolf Granute is a different type of Granute, perhaps some kind of wild/feral/savage type which was completely different if compared to the civilized type of the Stomach family or even all the Granutes of the week so far. Was the elusive Wolf Granute a normal Granute that became a wild freak of nature due to the failure in one of Dente's experiments when researching the Hitopress system?
Shouma returns to Sachika's shop @ 20:46 with the intention of working there again (and finding a living space). I've been asking why Shouma hasn't found a job since it's shown that he clearly needs money to even simply buy foods. Now it's clear why Shouma has been unable to find jobs and has been living like a vagrant/pauper. If Shouma actually finds a job (which he's more than capable of doing, let alone with the help of the Gochizous), then he'd have money to rent a living place. If Shouma finds a job that actually makes him money and enables him to live by his own means, then he would not need to return to Sachika's place to ask for her help, and she'd be irrelevant to the whole story in the next episodes. She'd be just another side characters of the week like Hajime, Mr. Sujimoto, and the Nakamura elderly couple. At most, she'd be a minor recurring character who is connected to Shouma via Hanto who may still have a need for her shop's service. So yes, Shouma is being manipulated by a higher force (read: the writers). TLDR: If Shouma finds a stable job, even a low-paying one, then Sachika would've little relevance to the story.
This dumb plot is obvious. It goes like this:
- Shouma is unable to find jobs,
- Thus he has no money,
- Thus he's unable to buy foods and rent a living space,
- Thus he often fainting due to starvation and living like a vagrant,
- Thus he meets, is given foods, and is bonding with the side characters of the week.
This dumb plot has been repeated 4 times consecutively since episode 2. Yes, you read that right. 4 times! Last week I said that if this is repeated once again in episode 5 then it's clear the writers are lazy. Well, it
is
repeated in this episode in the scenes involving Dente, so the writers are indeed demonstrating that they
are
lazy.
Mr. Shioya is investigating a bar which Hanto says @ 05:29 is an illegal gambling den that's often visited by famous people. He's then licked by the Granute of the week, so it's pretty much proven that he's just an ordinary human, not a Granute.
Next week:
Sachika discovers 2 Gochizous. What would she think they are? Toys? Pets? Invasive species?
Kenzou has finally completed a transformation device of his creation, the Valen Buster. Perhaps he's initially planning to use it himself, but changes his mind at the last minute after seeing Hanto having a conflict with the Granute of the week who licked Mr. Shioya. I'm still interested to see the people who are supporting Kenzou behind the scene. Unless he's a very rich yet eccentric/one-track minded genius like Dr. Emmett Brown from Back to the Future trilogy, it's unlikely that he's able to secure funding for his science project in just 2 weeks. It'd also be interesting if Dente ends up supporting him.
If Mr. Shioya is indeed used as a bait in the conflict and subplot between Hanto and the Granute of the week in episode 6 and to make Hanto transform into KR Valen who will debut in the same episode, then this story is demonstrating that it's going way too fast.
Nyelv says @ 23:14 that stimulation is important. I have a hypothesis that he's likely planning to use KR Gavv and KR Valen as sparring partners (aka unknowing pawns) whom he'll gather valuable data from. Those data will then be used to upgrade the design of the Granutes' Gavvs, or even to develop a Granute-only transformation belt/device that can also use or even produce RG's similar to what Shouma's red Gavv does. It'd be interesting if he's indeed Kenzou's antithesis, and they're trying to one-up each other. The clash of their Rider systems is the clash of their intellects.
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