[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Another thing is that these most unsuccessful peaceful attempts can be kept silent if the party plays the role of a villain in history.

That'd be just a case of bad guys winning but the good ones would be the ones kept silent.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

I think it's not so much a matter of finding an acceptable outcome for the future, but rather justifying Takatora?s motives. It is obvious that he looked into the coming future after the rescue, concentrating all his efforts precisely on the production of the maximum number of drivers. And in general, Gaim is a show where at the beginning the hero unknowingly kills a friend to save people, and in the end he does the same thing, but consciously.So within this story, the need to sacrifice lives for others is justified and it makes Takatoru closer to the good guys. And so, yes, I agree that it would be very difficult for the remaining humanity to implement his plan.

I'm bringing that up due to you criticizing Kouta for risking everyone that none would survive, which sounds like saying if no one opposes Takatora, things will be better in a billion surviving rather than none. I don't know why it's completely believed that those extremists' plans will go smoothly or achieve the expected outcome.

And about Yuya's death, not everything a hero does or the result of what they did should be celebrated. Yuya's death is a tragic loss for the heroes, a bad outcome or a failure for them. Doesn't mean they should never move on from said failure, but doesn't mean that what happened to Yuya should be perpetuated or encouraged. They'd be trying to make sure that what happened to Yuya won't happen again, not continuing the 'sacrificing friend for others' that happened there. The end solution is looking for ways to drive away Helheim from Earth.

Ryuki also had the ending of letting people die (e.g. the Kanzaki siblings), but the practice of sacrificing innocent people against their will is still opposed, like Shinji opposing Kagawa wanting to sacrifice Yui or his own family.