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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 8- "Dual Chocolate!" Discussion
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01-11-2025, 06:46 PM
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Zolda
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Sh Ranger
I meant that Sachika looking up the female-looking suspects' clothes would provoke a less severe reaction than Shouma looking up the female-looking suspects' clothes.
Less severe? I don't think so! I'd be equally provoked whether a man or a woman tries to look up my clothes, haha.
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Sh Ranger
Hanto initially hesitated to accept the surgery even after Shioya's death, so it's clear that for him to develop to the point of being desperate enough to become Valen, it would've needed more than only his mother's death. Or maybe he would've still reached that point eventually, but it would've taken much longer than Episode 6. Shioya's death simply gave haste to Hanto's arc in a way that serves the narrative. You can argue the logistics if you want, but I believe that Hanto's reaction to the chain of events is true to the character.
Logistics? Since when did I argue about logistics? I've never argued about logistics. What I've pointed out in this dumb, lazy, cheap, heavy-handed, atrocious story is the sheer number of violations of logic, rationality, and common sense. Hanto's reaction to the chain of events meant nothing if the chain of events itself made no sense at all. Nothing. Hanto's reaction to the chain of events is only one small variable of the equation. If 4 other variables of the equation in the chain of events are wrong, then the answer is also wrong. It makes the story severely lacks narrative integrity. This is why I always talk about avoiding writing a convoluted story. A super duper hyper ultra-convoluted story like Gavv or (God forbid) Geats is just a ticking time bomb.
You don't need to be a professional writer to come up with a convoluted, seemingly 7D chain of events that violates all forms of logic, rationality, and common sense, and as a result turns the story into a giant pile of nonsensical mess and turns the characters into dumb, shallow, 1D creatures. Everyone can do that, especially someone with AI writing tools such as Chat GPT and the likes. This atrocious level of lack of common sense and critical thinking suspiciously is the hallmark of AI-generated texts, images, and videos. If someone tells me that this sloppy mess of a story is AI-generated, I'd probably believe it, haha.
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Sh Ranger
Like I said before, Shioya may not need to be revived to come back, as we didn't actually see him die and therefore it's possible that he's still alive and that the Hitopress is a fake. Even if you assume that he is really dead, then your argument is basically, "it doesn't make sense for him to revive due to him being dead", which is literally a requirement for someone to revive, that they have to be dead first.
That could be the case, but it'd only make the already convoluted story become more convoluted. It'd only increase the possibility of the writers shooting themselves in the foot, like they have already done for a gazillion times, haha. A convoluted story is basically a narrative suicide. It's an ultra-fragile structure. Like I said above: A ticking time bomb.
And haven't you realized that there's yet
another
huge logical anomaly? If Mr. Shioya and Hanto were the only people under the sun who knew about their plan to investigate the suspicious bar in episode 5, then how come the mushroom Granute knew about the exact location and the exact time Mr. Shioya was investigating there at the end of episode 5? Hanto didn't tell Kenzou about it, so Kenzou can't leak it to Nyelv and the mushroom Granute. So, how come the mushroom Granute knew? If the answer is because the mushroom Granute was informed by Nyelv's agents, then yes, this story is providing yet another new evidence of how atrociously, sloppily, lazily written it is.
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