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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 19- "The Secret Bittersweet Flavor of Pudding!" Discussion
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01-19-2025, 02:36 AM
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Zolda
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After Lage 9/KR Vram defeats Hanto/KR Valen, @ 00:59 Lango's agent appears on the top of a building to gather intel, but it's seen by Lage 9/KR Vram. Unlike the Gochizous, the agents look so big, conspicuous, and gaudy, so they create a literal huuuuuuuuge risk of being discovered by their subjects and or humans, which very very
very
severely compromises their intel gathering ability as shown in this scene. So, being big, conspicuous, gaudy creatures, why the heck do they never try to hide themselves and make themselves more discreet when spying and or gathering intel?
Don't know! The agents are spies, and all spies hide. If that agent hides while scouting and or gathering intel, then Lage 9 identity as KR Vram could've been revealed easily when he detransforms. It's sooooo awfully convenient. It's obvious that the writers needed Lage 9's identity as KR Vram to be hidden from Lango so that they can extend this unnecessary sEcReT iDeNtItY plot as long as they needed, just like Shouma's and Hanto's sEcReT iDeNtItY plot. Great, now this story has 2 equally idiotic sEcReT iDeNtItY plots.
In the scene @ 03:06 Lango (and Glotta) is surprised when his agent in the previous scene informs him that there's the 3rd Granute hunter. His agent says that they're fighting among themselves. So yeah, Lango (and Glotta) doesn't know that Lage 9 is KR Vram. He (and Glotta) also doesn't know that Lage 9/KR Vram acted as a bodyguard for the (bird?) Granute of the week in episodes 17-18. He (and Glotta)
conveniently
doesn't know many important things, while Nyelv is playing dumb @ 03:27. Heck, he (and Glotta) doesn't even know that Hanto/KR Valen transforms by using the Valen Buster which was created by Kenzou via Nyelv's support in information and resources. Soooooooooo, Nyelv misappropriated Stomach's fund without his (and Glotta's) knowledge at all? What kind of dumb CEO is Lango? It'd be very convenient if only Shouma's Henshin Belt Gavv was developed by Dente and funded by Stomach via Bouche's authorization, but the Valen Buster and the Vrastum Gear were funded with Nyelv's own money.
Like I hypothesized last week in the episode 18 thread
here
, Shouma brings the injured Hanto to Kenzou's crummy lab @ 03:35. Kenzou says @ 04:13 that he knows Shouma's identity as KR Gavv and tells Shouma that he's the developer of the Valen Buster. Kenzou says @ 04:57 that Hanto's body should recover after resting, and says that it's just like Shouma. Does this mean that he knows about Shouma's sEcReT iDeNtItY as a human-Granute hybrid? Maybe! Kenzou steals 1 strand of Shouma's hair @ 05:19. Soooooooooooo awfully convenient. Kenzou has a superhuman ability of being able to see 1 strand of Shouma's hair, haha.
Oh, doesn't Kenzou know that hair and finger nails do not contain DNA, aside from the follicles and nail roots? What if it's actually Hanto's hair that was stuck there when he was brought by Shouma? Haha.
What a lazy writing. It seems like Kenzou is gonna do a new experiment with Shouma's DNA. It could be an experiment to extract Shouma's human DNA. Maybe, just maybe, that human DNA is then injected into Jeebh to allow him to gain similar power to Shouma, and allow him to create Gochizous by eating humans' snacks. Jeebh's Gavv would be modified by Nyelv or Kenzou based on Dente's data, or even by Dente himself. The side effect of this DNA injection experiment could likely cause Jeebh to gradually develop sympathy for humans. Jeebh was last seen in episode 16, so there's a high chance that the writers are sidelining him to build momentum for his reappearance with a brand new look and debut as KR Bitter Gavv in episode 21 on February 2 as the toy release date indicated. There's also a lower possibility that Kenzou/Nyelv is trying to create a clone of Shouma based on the extracted DNA, and the clone's Gavv would then be modified with the Henshin Belt Bitter Gavv, similar to how a random Native Worm was ordered to mimic kid Tendou Souji, was given the Dark Kabuto Zecter, and was used as the test subject of the Hyper Zecter experiment in KR Kabuto.
In the scene @ 06:08 Lage 9 has a glimpse of flashback when he's browsing on his smartphone. He says that he need to get close to Stomach, or else the truth will forever be buried. Oh, and the police are still not able to track his identity, let alone location, after the 3 instances of crime he committed in the previous episodes?
Shouma is trying to find the new location of Stomach base camp in the human world, but he can't find it, so @ 07:49 he's commanding the Gochizous to search for it. Why didn't he do it earlier since a million episodes ago?
Don't know!
In the scene @ 08:18 Shouma conveniently encounters Lage 9 at the Toei warehouse (aka studio) parking lot, haha.
He follows Lage 9 into a university building where Lage 9 casually enters a class room to commit his signature crime. So yeah, like I hypothesized in the episode 17 thread
here
, Lage 9 does commit his 4th(!) act of crime using the same exact modus operandi. Heck, he even wears the exact same clothes, his eye-catching (and out of place) big, black coat! And stupidly, the police are still unable to identify him. Gosh! What an awfully dumb, lazy story.
Shouma and Lage 9/KR Vram gets into a fight, and @ 11:28 Lage 9/KR Vram is trying to take Shouma's Henshin Belt Gavv but is unable to remove it because it's directly attached to Shouma's digestive system, and concludes that Shouma is indeed a Granute in the shape of a human. This scene could mean that he may leak this crucial info to Hanto later. And yes, like I hypothesized last week in the episode 18 thread
here
, Lage 9/KR Vram does tell Shouma the lengthy details(!) of his sob story @ 14:17 regarding his little brother named Komel Amarga. So yeah, like I hypothesized in the episode 17 thread here
here
and the episode 18 thread
here
, Lage 9/KR Vram does have an ulterior motive that has something to do with one of his family members, although that family member is male, not a female. The high-pitched teenager voice did sound like a female's voice, haha.
Lage 9 shows a piece of paper showing Komel as a missing person. Lage 9 is just an ordinary civilian Granute, not a police/DEA spy. Lage 9 was likely a mine worker, which explains why his Vram Breaker has a sickle mode that looks like a mining hammer. One day, Komel stole Lage 9's money to buy Dark Snacks, and ran from home. Komel came back home dying one year later, and @ 18:07 Lage 9 accuses Shouma of being the Stomach enforcer who fatally injured Komel who he thinks worked as a Stomach part-timer to satiate his Dark Snack addiction.
This is weird. It creates several questions:
- How does Lage 9/KR Vram conclude that Shouma/KR Gavv is a Granute hunter who kills Stomach's part-timers who rebel against Stomach's orders? He knows that the Stomach family members can create their own agents. The agents are basically Stomach's enforcers, and they're 100% controlled by the Stomach family members, so it's impossible for them to betray each of their masters. So, why bother employing a Granute enforcer to straighten up or eliminate rebellious part-timers?
- How does Lage 9/KR Vram conclude that Dark Snacks are novelty foods that are solely sold by Stomach? Out of the possibly many food science/food manufacturing companies in the Granute world, how could he track the Dark Snacks distribution and pinpoint it to Stomach? Unless he has connection in the Granute's police department, or at least has known other Dark Snack junkies, it'd be very convenient if he just know about Stomach as the sole maker of Dark Snacks. This part of Lage 9's back story should be elaborated more.
- The answer: Don't know!
In the scene @ 20:22 Lage 9 is wondering who killed Komel and why he was killed. Shouma says that he wants to help Lage 9 fight Stomach and tells him a little bit of his own sob story about his mom being a Stomach's victim as well. He's preaching to Lage 9 that he should use his power to fight against Stomach's ambition. So yeah, by the next episode, Lage 9/KR Vram will change sides. So yeah, all the 3 main Riders are motivated by revenge. All of them have the same motivation, which make them veeeeeeeery boring. Jeebh went crazy after Shouma/KR Gavv killed Shita, so if Jeebh is later confirmed to be KR Bitter Gavv, then that would make 4(!) Riders that are motivated by revenge. Dang! I really really
really
hope I'm wrong on this one.
Also, why doesn't Shouma use the Caking RG and transform into KR Gavv Caking form to fight Lage 9/KR Vram? Why does he use the Poppin Gummy RG instead? The Caking RG was only accidentally thrown away @ 11:25, but why doesn't it try to search for Shouma and allow him to transform into KR Gavv Caking form? Of course, as always, the answer is crystal clear: Because the writers needed Shouma
not
to transform into KR Gavv Caking form. The writers needed to create the hilariously detailed, lengthy infodump about Lage 9/KR Vram's sob story, so if Shouma used the Caking RG and transformed into KR Gavv Caking form, then Lage 9/KR Vram's sob story would fall apart miserably and this episode wouldn't exist in the first place. Yep, it's plot convenience as usual. Gosh, what an infodump galore episode! It's sooooooooooooo pathetically, laughably, indefensibly lazy.
It's finally confirmed that Lage 9 is just an ordinary civilian Granute, not a police/DEA spy. So, the question is, where the heck are the Granute police? Lango stated in episode 5 @ 04:53 that he was concerned that the Granute government might crack down on Stomach's illegal drug operation, so it's clear that the Granute government does enforce the law and has their own DEA/drug enforcement agency. So why hasn't the story showed several other hints about the Granute government's anti-drug authority? Not even the Granute police is mentioned. It'd make no sense at all if a crime story about an organized crime business dealing with drug trafficking and illegal weapon creation (and human trafficking!) has no police/DEA/FBI agents, let alone undercover cops/DEA/FBI agents. It'd be like eating sushi that contains no fish, haha.
Oh, and Sachika is the most irrelevant heroine in this franchise's history. I'm afraid that she'd be given a Rider power just to make her more relevant to the story, like the Revice writers did to Aguilera.
Next week:
So yes, as shown in the preview section @ 23:06, Shouma/KR Gavv does still have the Caking RG. So why doesn't he use it after @ 11:25 like I mentioned above? Why doesn't it try to find Shouma? Don't know!
In the scene @ 23:08 it's shown that Lage 9 is entering the Granute world with Shouma. This is weird. Isn't the interdimensional portal managed/controlled by the Stomach family members and their agents, not part-timers? How is Lage 9, a mere part-timer, able to enter the Granute world through the portal without the agents' knowledge, let alone bring in Shouma, the #1 person on Stomach's most wanted enemy list, with him as well? Don't know!
Lage 9 is fighting one of the agents. So yeah, he'll likely be redeemed by episode 20, likely to make way for Jeebh's debut as the newest dark Rider, KR Bitter Gavv.
In the scene @ 23:10 Lage 9 and Shouma are running away from the agents while bringing several briefcases that very likely contain the Hito Pressed humans, including a missing high-schooler named Takeshi in episode 17. How does a mere part-timer like Lage 9 know where the Hito Pressed humans are stashed inside the Stomach factory? Why isn't a drug factory tightly secured and closely guarded by many of Glotta's agents? Don't know! It seems like episode 20 is Glotta's turn to hold the idiot ball, haha.
Hanto says that he doesn't know why Shouma is helping Lage 9 @ 23:11. So yeah, that's the reason why Hanto is almost completely sidelined in episode 19. This is probably the point where he starts thinking that Shouma may be a Granute. Hellooooo????? You're like 7 episodes overdue, dude. This could be the end of Hanto and Shouma's dumb sEcReT iDeNtItY plot, and after this point Hanto would begin his transition into a dark secondary Rider (like what happened to Sad Boi Keiwa) like shown on the 2nd arc poster several weeks ago.
Shouma in KR Gavv Caking form is fighting Glotta in her full form. Will she also be killed by KR Gavv Caking form? I don't think that's the case. She'd likely survive, and her defeat will turn her into a chaotic, sadistic, bloodlust villain that Lango can't even order around.
Nyelv is giving the new Purujelly RG to Lage 9/KR Vram. I like the jelly theme of the KR Vram Jelly Custom, even the color combination. The shapes of the helmet and armors somehow lack something. It lacks visual flair.
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