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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 20- "Break In To The Dark Snacks Factory!" Discussion
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01-27-2025, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
Jeebh's Gavv would be modified by Nyelv or Kenzou based on Dente's data, or even by Dente himself. The side effect of this DNA injection experiment could likely cause Jeebh to gradually develop sympathy for humans.
That's not how DNA works. That makes even less sense than JyamaDaichi gaining emotions from memories.
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Originally Posted by
Mesnick
I also can?t help but note Vram?s new form. Visually there is nothing special about this pink half armor, but the abilities really surprised me. First of all, invisibility is not a power that usually goes to good guys. Secondly: she has limitations, which are shown right during the debut, but at the same time they do not detract from her coolness. So yes, I was impressed by the invisible jelly.
Vram used the power of evil for the sake of good? Yep, he's officially a Kamen Rider now. Especially since Nyelve gave Lakia the Purujelly while under the assumption that he was still on the side of evil. Actually, I wonder if Nyelve will even be concerned about him defecting, as this may turn out to be part of his secret agenda. For a start, this makes fools of Lango for hiring Lakia and of Glotta for losing a super high quality product line, while Nyelve might be laughing at them behind their backs.
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Originally Posted by
Kiwami
Also, Bitter Gavv next week, and its host is Bully Maguire Shoma. Or his evil clone grown from that one hair the mad professor stole. We'll see.
I think it's more likely that Bully Shouma is another Granute, maybe Jeep, wearing a Shouma disguise made from the DNA sample Suga obtained.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Shoma continues his efforts to redeem Lakia, starting with them introducing themselves to each other. Lakia's callousness in kidnapping humans stems from his lack of knowledge about them. Coincidentally, Takeshi's situation is somewhat similar to Lakia looking after Comel, which might evoke empathy in him for humans, helping Shoma succeed. It is also unclear how much Lakia cares about other Granutes, especially given his statement that he doesn't care if anyone dies.
Lakia must've sealed his heart deep down after suffering the death of his last living family, until seeing Mitarai desperately looking for his son awakened it once more. Now he realizes that Granutes and humans are the same and he can't allow Stomach to hurt anybody else. Shouma gave him the courage to do the right thing.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
What comes to my mind when Hanto confronts and punches Shoma at the end was
Price punching Yuri in MW3 due to him knowing Makarov
.
Interesting timing for you making that reference, since I literally just started playing BO6 last weekend.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Hanto joins another secondary character who starts out nice but later becomes antagonistic toward the main Rider. Hanto has negative traits, being consumed by hatred and vengeance; this darker side is beginning to surface. However, his actions are currently similar to Geiz pursuing Sougo (otherwise Geiz only fights against bad guys). Hanto's journey could lead him down a villainous path if he begins consistently targeting innocent Granutes, paralleling Lakia's actions against innocent humans, but in reverse.
Despite starting hostile towards Sougo, Geiz was fortunately capable of critical thinking, as shown when he became the voice of reason after Tsukuyomi went full anti-Sougo mode, with Geiz pointing out how Sougo used his powers for good. I would presume that Hanto is the same, as there are lots of scenes with him thinking by himself about the subtext in Shouma's lines. Maybe this is another reason why Nyelve wanted Shioya out of the picture, since Shioya would be the first person to encourage Hanto to look from other angles and prevent conflicts of misunderstanding.
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Originally Posted by
Kiwami
I just hate to see these two fight.
We hate to see it, but we cannot help but watch.
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Originally Posted by
Mesnick
In any case, with Hanto, it seems to me that many are running ahead of the locomotive. That is, maybe this is not a dispute that is worth getting involved in, but it seems to me that it is too early to call Valen a merciless Granute killer. Let him do something really bad first.
Agreed. While Hanto makes it a problem for Shouma to trust him with his biggest secret, there's no doubt that Hanto's reaction would've been much less severe if only he'd heard it from the source earlier, instead of having to wait for Shouma to get outed as a Granute and a Stomach by Glotta. The fact that Shouma refused to go with him to the Granute world but eagerly went with Lakia makes it sting even more.
We must remember that prejudice is caused by confirmation bias and a lack of education. So Shouma keeping Hanto out of the loop has only been enabling prejudice. Hanto merely punching Shouma instead of trying to destroy him shows that his moral compass is at least better than people seem to give him credit for. It's clear that Bitter Gavv's introduction is necessary to escalate their conflict by framing Shouma as an evil Granute, since Hanto would otherwise have come to the right conclusion after some time to think it over.
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Mesnick
P.S. And it just dawned on me that Hanto punching Shouma , who can survive a collision with a truck without consequences.
Hanto's surgery has given him a Granute's healing factor, so it makes sense that he has a Granute's strength and resilience as well.
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