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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 19- "The Secret Bittersweet Flavor of Pudding!" Discussion
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02-01-2025, 07:00 PM
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Zolda
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Originally Posted by
Eclipyon
And my reply wasn't even directed at your conditional question, it's at the statement "Don't know!". If you have just provided your hypothesis just like you did in this quoted reply rather than simply stating "Don't know!", I would have been fine with it.
What???
Your reply was directed at my "Don't know!" statement?
I said "Don't know!" because, like you said, I (and you and everyone else) didn't know since the episode 20 had not been broadcasted. When I said "Don't know!", I mean it, because, well, I didn't know, since there were many possibilities.
I'm not sure what makes you not fine with me saying "Don't know!". "Don't know!" = I don't know. Duh.
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Eclipyon
Shrugs, I never claim myself to be smart, but you're not doing youself any favors if you didn't double check who you're quoting...(sorry about this, SH Ranger).
Thanks for pointing out the wrong links. I've just edited the links on that post.
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
I'd argue that Donbrothers has a worse example of this trope, with a member of the core 5 not being revealed to the others until just before the final arc.
I didn't like that part of Donbrothers either, but the main reason why KR Faiz's sEcReT iDeNtIty trope was worse than Donbrothers' is because those Faiz's characters knew each other, while Tsubasa Inuzuka/Inu Brother was mainly only close to Kijino. Toshiki Inoue's best writing of the secret identity trope was in KR Agito, which was done tastefully in proper dose. To me, Agito is the superior version of Faiz, or rather, Faiz it the watered down version of Agito, haha.
Of course, the bad writing of Donbrothers' and KR Faiz's sEcReT iDeNtIty trope were nothing, I mean, nothing, compared to how atrocious the sEcReT iDeNtIty trope in KR Gavv between Shouma and Hanto due to the many incriminating pieces of evidence shown to Hanto. Gavv's atrocious writing makes Donbrothers' and KR Faiz's sEcReT iDeNtIty trope look like masterpiece, haha.
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
I don't think you're dumb, but I also don't think you understand the concept of common sense either, since you're the only one constantly bringing that up. Also, you keep referring to Granute Chooul as "(bird?) Granute" for some reason, which is annoying to read.
That quoted paragraph obviously contain typos that resulted in the wrong link and user name. No need to reply to a post that contain a wrongly attributed quote, since you knew you never said that quoted paragraph in the first place. I've just corrected that post. Not sure how I pasted the wrong link and user name, haha.
And why are you annoyed with me calling the Granute of the week in episodes 17-18 the (bird?) Granute?
I call it the (bird?) Granute due to it's hideous, ugly appearance, haha. Perhaps the designers from Plex intended for the Granutes of the week to be very hideous and ugly. I'm fine with the designs of the Stomach family members, though.
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Sh Ranger
Sachika was a 100% complete stranger, but now she's Shouma's friend, which is more than Shouma can say about any of his patrilineal family besides Dente. Her lack of shared backstory doesn't make her irrelevant, since she has emotional significance. Caking only exists due to her nurturing trait, which you value in heroines, but now you're dismissing it. Once more, your idea of a good heroine is clearly different to mine. I would've gladly argued against your Mai essay from the Gotchard thread if you hadn't told me you were finished talking about it.
Your statement about me dismissing the nurturing trait that I value in heroines is one of the most fatal forms of faulty logic/reasoning called a straw man argument. What actually happens: I've never dismissed it at all. Sachika nurturing trait is completely superficial. It's an illusion. Caking exists not because of Sachika's nurturing trait, but because Shouma is a dysfunctional 25(!) or 28(!) year-old man who can't even find a job for himself. If Shouma can find a job and make an income for himself, then Sachika would not need to give him jobs, and she'd be pretty much irrelevant and would be relegated to a recurring minor character. I've already elaborated several times about Shouma's dysfunctional personality since my post in episode 5 thread
here
. About Sachika's utter lack of backstory, I myself am not even sure if she'd be like this until this story ends or whether she'd be given a backstory in future episodes. Several members in other toku forums recently made a hypothesis, or rather, an outlandish speculation, based on a rumor that Sachika would be the final boss of this story, which if true means that the writers indeed went full Yuuya with her.
You would've gladly argued against my points about Mai from KR Gaim in KR Gotchard's thread? Bruuuhhh, I already refuted virtually all your wrong points with timestamps
and
screenshots. No need to repeat it.
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
Due to the fact that a Rider who sucks at doing physical things would get beaten up and probably killed like Letter. Like, sure, becoming a Rider doesn't necessarily add anything to a character, but it doesn't take away either. The only possible downside is that the suit could suck (Aguilera) or scrap a better suit (R.I.P. Kanon Specter). It sounds like you expect me to disagree with Hina and Kohana being Rider candidates, but I'd actually be cool with that. For Kabuto though, I would suggest Misaki before Renge.
Becoming a Rider doesn't take something away from a character, if and only if it makes sense for the story. If it makes no sense for the story, or worse, if it interferes with a character's main function (espeeeeeeeeecially as heroines), then it'd seriously hamper that character's role and contribution to the story. Pretty much the opposite, I actually expected you to
agree
with Hina and Kohana being Riders. Hina and Kohana being Riders would've definitely hampered their main function as heroines. Let's say hello to Rinne Kudou whose main role as Gotchard's heroine was very very
very
bad.
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Sh Ranger
We're cool. Zolda's goof, not yours.
Ah yes. Making typos = Being a goof.
Thanks for helping me demonstrate how pathetically, laughably, embarrassingly, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, and atrocious KR Gavv's story, haha.
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