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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 20- "Break In To The Dark Snacks Factory!" Discussion
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02-01-2025, 07:01 PM
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Zolda
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Several additional points and elaboration:
- The Bitter Shouma(?)/Dark Shouma(?)/Clone Shouma(?) could act in a childish, immature behavior due to being a clone with artificially accelerated growth.
- Alhough I hypothesized in my first post above that KR Bitter Gavv could be Bitter Shouma(?)/Dark Shouma(?)/Clone Shouma(?), there's also the possibility that he could be the real Shouma himself. Shouma could have a split personality caused by Bouche's abusive treatment toward him and his mom and has secretly made him *wait for it* bitter and resentful toward Bouche and the rest of the Stomach family except Dente. A negative behavior on an adult that's caused by abusive, traumatic childhood, especially between age 0 to 5 is a common phenomena in psychology.
- Or perhaps Shouma would be possessed by an unknown dark entity that's been lurking inside him for quite some time. This dark entity could be the one who triggered his kid self's transformation into the elusive feral Wolf Granute who kidnapped Hanto's mom 18 years ago. This dark entity could have a virus-like power to spread to other Granutes and corrupt their Gavvs. Or perhaps Shouma would somehow eat a piece of Dark Snack and his Henshin Belt Gavv would be corrupted by it.
- Why was Kid Shouma allowed to freely roam inside the Dark Snack factory? Why was he allowed to get near the kidnapped humans such as Hanto's mom? Why was Hanto's mom even allowed to freely roam inside the factory in the first place? If she was a prisoner or a trafficked human like the other kidnapped humans, then why wasn't she put inside a cell with them? Why wasn't the factory kept sterile out of external interferences like Kid Shouma who posed the risk of messing with the Dark Snack production line, and even leaking the internal secrets of Stomach's illegal drug factory?
- Why does Glotta call KR Vram a Granute hunter? He's never killed any of Stomach's part-timers. Heck, he even acted as a bodyguard for the (bird?) Granute of the week in episodes 17-18 when she was confronted by Shouma/KR Gavv and Hanto/KR Valen. So why, Glotta? Why? Are you behind with the news
that
badly, Glotta?
- There's a fatal, plot-breaking logical anomaly regarding Lage 9 that I've just noticed. How could've Lage 9 known that his convenient power was effective on humans in the first place? He had never even visited the human world nor had he encountered a living, breathing human prior to episode 15 (his debut at the court room), so how the heck did he know that his power was able to easily maximize humans' level of happiness in an instant which in turn transformed them into premium-quality Hito Presses?
That kind of calm demeanor was only possible if he had already had the knowledge that his power was effective on humans via prior experience. He was obviously a total noob with zero experience, so how the heck did he gain that knowledge?
Like I said in episode 15 thread, his power was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo convenient for the plot. No convenient power = No plot for Lage 9 = No KR Vram. Gosh, the writers just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot, haha.
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Eclipyon
But didn't the brief memory flash in Episode 12 imply that Shoma actually got a good look at the photo?
See the screenshots below. How on God's green Earth does this scene in episode 12 @ 09:09 imply that Shouma actually got a good look at the photo of Kid Hanto and his mom?
Shouma was very very
very
obviously just looking at it from a distance from the side(!), so it should be quite hard fo Shouma to be able to discern the facial detail of Hanto's mom in that small, wallet-sized photo. The camera even went out of focus from Hanto's hand before it panned and focused to Shouma's face, which is another visual evidence that Shouma was indeed positioned further from Hanto and his photo.
You call
that
taking a good look?
There was only one character who took a good look at the photo in that scene, and his name was Hanto Karakida/KR Valen, not Shouma Inoue Stomach/KR Gavv.
That scene just shows how pathetically, laughably, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, and atrocious the writing of this series is. Like toughfighter83 said in his post in episode 18 thread
here
:
"
[E]verything is just getting thrown in there and hope it sticks.
"
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
That's not how DNA works. That makes even less sense than JyamaDaichi gaining emotions from memories.
You're right, and I fully concur.
Of course
that's obviously not how DNA works, like I mentioned in my hypothesis in episode 19 thread
here
that hair and finger nails do not contain DNA, aside from the follicles and nail roots. It'd be even more inaccurate if the 1 strand of Shouma's hair was used to create a clone of Shouma which will transform into KR Bitter Gavv in episode 21 like I've hypothesized since several episodes ago.
KR Gavv's story has demonstrated a gazillion of instances of violation of logic, rationality, and common sense, so what's the harm in being scientifically inaccurate for artistic purpose? A minor scientific inaccuracy for artistic purpose is a much much
much
better excuse than writing a super duper hyper mega ultra convoluted story that violates all laws of logic, rationality, and common sense. After all, this is toku, so scientific inaccuracy for artistic purpose is a very very
very
common trope. What's atrocious in KR Gavv is not the scientific inaccuracy, but the pathetically, laughably, indefensibly lazy, sloppy, and atrocious writing.
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